Bonus from Like Mother Like Murder: Rowan Morey

Hey guys, welcome to a bonus episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie. I'm just going to do a quick, little brief introduction and then we are going to get into the episode which is coming to you today from my friends at Like Mother, Like Murder, Rachel and Heather. If you don't follow them, go ahead and pause the podcast. Go over to Like Mother, Like Murder and follow them. They are a best friend duo and they are amazing. I met them at Crime Con and I feel very lucky and privileged to know them and get to work alongside of them in the podcasting world, in the true crime podcasting world. So Rachel had reached out to me and asked if I would share this story of a little boy named Rowan Maury. Rachel and Heather were contacted by Rowan's mother and they have put together a really good episode. They did an interview with her, and I think as true crime podcasters, once you're reached out to by the family to share their loved one story, there's an extra layer of importance and need to get it right and need to spread it to as many people as possible. So that is exactly what I am doing today. I am sharing the episode from Rachel and Heather Like Motherlike Murder, and the episode that they did with Rowan's mom, Brandy, because Rowan never should have lost his life and it was super preventable. And that is the message that I want you guys to take away from the story that Rachel and Heather and Brandy are going to tell you, because it's so important that this never ever ever happens again to another child, to another family. And we're all about creating a safe space where people can confide in us and trust in us to share their story and shared appropriately and hopefully help change the narrative and actually make a difference so no one else ever has to go through this. So thank you guys for tuning in as always, and I am going to go ahead and let Rachel and Heather take it away. Welcome to Like Mother Like Murder. I am Rachel and I'm Heather. We bring you the good, the badass, and the crime. This is Like Mother Like Murder. Hello, everyone, Welcome to Like Mother Like Murder. Today we have a mother in need of all the love, all of the support, all of the warriors to join her in the fight to make a change, a change that is too late to help her precious son, but can hopefully help the next family and child. We have a mother who lost her son in a horrific way only forty three days ago. We have a mother who lost her son in a murder suicide where his life was taken by the father before turning the gun on himself. We have a mother who tried to tell the courts, who tried to tell others that something was wrong. We have a mother who made a report when her son wasn't brought home when he was supposed to be, and she wasn't taken seriously. We have a mother who looked the judge in the eye and was turned away the day before her son was found murdered in a home. We have a mother whose pride and joy was taken, and today you get to hear from this mother. Today we have Brandy Mori poll. Heather and I sat down and talked with Brandy. She shares stories of who Rowan was and the things that made him so incredibly amazing. She shared things he loved and was looking forward to, as well as how much he was loved by his siblings and his friends. She talks about custody over the years and different problems that arose, and then she gets into the day he was not brought home to her and how her life will never be the same. We will have a call to action at the end of the episode of what you can do to try to help stop this from happening to the next child, because Rowan's murder cannot go without some sort of change to help someone else. Things need to change, and Brandy wants to be the person to make that happen for others because of Rowan. Here is Brandy. First of all, thank you so much for joining us today. The conversation that we're going to have is painful, it's heartbreaking, and the thing is, we need to share rowan story. So can we start with you talking about him first, kind of telling us who he was, his interests, just all about him. Crap, I'm going to start off crying right away. We'll cry right along with you. Oh he he He. Was so so utterly spoiled and such a sweet, sweet boy like and my husband would get on me sometimes for spoiling him too much. And now I'm so glad that I did, like because who knows how he had it on the other side. And that's I think that's a lot of the mom and me that took over and just over mommed him. But he he was really funny. He one of the things I miss the most is turing his feet running to my bed every morning and jumping in like he had his little boy get like Spider Man and would jump into bed with me. He was raised by a hairdresser, so he was a bit of a softie. I know he loved golf because we're all golfers. But the one thing he couldn't wait for was to play for football this fall because his big brother Bryson, he's thirteen, he plays tackle football. He wanted to be just like him. And his first game was the Sunday after he was murdered, so he didn't get. To even play or practice with his team. By his team's all wearing stickers for Rowan and they'd never even met him. He made friends so easily. His poor little friends are just having such a hard time through this. It's like going through this and watching the ones that love him lose him too is just so heartbreaking. Ye, the impact that a six year old can have on so many is so real. What he did. In his little bit of life was just brought so much light and love to our family. So you have to understand we're blended. My husband and I are, and between the two of us, we have seven kids. And he was the youngest, and I know, so my oldest is twenty seven and he's married, so she's my daughter. Then my other daughter's twenty two, then twenty then his son is eighteen thirteen, and then Rowan would have been seven, So he was the youngest out of all these older kids, and they just they're big thing. The older ones would always look at me and be like, well, we didn't have that. Because they see how much I spoiled Rowan, and like, yes, you did. I just didn't have an iPhone and all the stuff to record everything that you did. Worked. It just blended so beautifully. Like we just had a big family vacation to Silver Lake where we took all of our off road vehicles and my. Jeep in his Bronco. We all went up. There was twelve of us that stayed up there and we went off roading on the dunes all weekend and. That was our best family trip all together. Yeah, and that's something that you guys are going to have forever and talking about. All of the siblings. That is, it's so painful to know they're experiencing with their ages. I just think about, like how much they played such a big impact in his growth and raising him as well. Right alongside you. My daughter Shelby was second mom. I mean, she literally looks just like me and has my voice, except for she's about five inches shorter. And they were very close and she struggles a lot. Like my boys are are more quiet. They won't go to grief counseling because they're just being boys. But my daughter is see going to see someone, I think next week. But our whole family has just been shattered by this, right, Yeah, you don't realize how much that one little person meant. Just it was such a huge part of our family. There was so many. It's nothing that you can expect or it's it's nothing you can expect or it's nothing that should ever happen. I did. I did expect it. I did expect it. You did expect it? And that kills me. It does it does I? And and in talking about him, so I don't know if you guys you've read up on it or whatnot. But his dad had shaved him bald four times because I was a hair stylist. How well, it's better to get back at someone then to do that, which is just. And he was so little when he first did it that that I wouldn't show a reaction when I pick him up, I'd just be like, hi, baby, grab. Him and leave. I would not give him any inkling that it bothered me, so hopefully he would stop the first time he did it was twenty twenty and I had just been diagnosed with breast cancer and we had to adjourn a court to lower his child support because I had to have my breasts removed. So he sent him home bald, and that's when I knew what I was dealing with. And I knew in my heart. That CPS or any front of the court or anyone, no one would do anything about it. They'd say, oh, it's just hair. So I didn't really do anything the first time. Well, the second time he did it was just before my oldest son's wedding. A week before the wedding, he just shaved all his hair off. So in any of the big pictures that you see in our family, my son's wedding, he's if he's got a hat on it's because he had been shaped bald. So then after that time, I put him into counseling. We had counseling for about a year, and then I tried mediation with Mike to talk about it. And then finally the fourth time he did it was the last time. And I think it's the picture that everyone's seen that he's completely to the scalp. And I could tell when Ron got home that he had just done it just before he left the house. He hadn't even seen himself because he had a winter cap on. It was twenty seven degrees out that day, and I got him home and he took his hat off. I'm like, hi, babe, and I don't react, and my heart just sinks. And so later that night I go. To give him a bath and he gets out and he's just staring in the mirror looking at himself for the longest time. He started to cry and he said, Mom, I look funny. I said, oh, baby, no, you don't. You're beautiful. You just got a whole lot more face. Yeah. I was trying to try to just turn it around for him. But at that point he had been telling me how Dad was sleeping all day. He was only eating toast, and I saw how disgusting his house was and then the head shaving things. So I called CPS. I'm like, okay, it's time something has to be done, right, and that it was. There's such a joke. It was such a joke. It's this young girl who didn't take me seriously. Could have I could tell she could care less, that she thought it wasn't a big deal. She came over and she took all my statements and looked at my home and whatnot. And then she went out to Mike's house twice and he didn't answer. I mean, he didn't work and he can't drive. He was home, he's there, so yeah. Yeah, yeah, So she called and called and called, and finally he answered, and he refused to let the CPS girl come out until he knew the allegations. So she told him. So then she goes out. There, she comes back to me to my home, has the audacity to stand in my house and tell me, well, his house was immaculate. Yeah, of course it was. You told him what the problems were. You told him you were coming there to look at it, and therefore someone's going to clean up to look a certain. Right, so then so then you fast forward. We're in court this past year in front of the judge and Mike was his own attorney, and I was on the stand for at least two hours. Guys, this was just. For court for what school he was going to, and he was already in it. I had already put him in school. Mike had fought me every way on every single thing. So for two years I had him in preschool at a church and then DK at Vowels. Mike didn't take him on his days. He didn't go to school for two years on Mike's time. Wow. And it's legal in Michigan until you're six years old. So we were arguing over what school, and we were in court and he had me on the stand for about two hours, and he brought up the CPS thing and I said, yes, because you did this, this, this. And this. The judge dreamed me. He looked at me and was just he goes, not for one second do I believe he was only eating toast goshed. My eyes started to twitch. I just yeah, anger and it is. It's infuriating. Even my own attorney that I had at the time was angry with me. They were all like, what a gross misuse of the resources that's for children that need it? Yeah, and where are they today? What are they saying today? A look and saying that exactly. I've not gotten any response out of the judge. I'm sure it's not gonna but. I mean for him to. And here's where my confusion comes in. That judge signed a core order when our case first started. Why do I need to have his permission to get my child back? Why did I have to file an emergency motion? Did he not believe his own words to his first order that he very Why do I need his permission again for something he's already signed? Why did I have to wait fifty two hours? Fifty two hours? You imagine what that was like. I knew, I knew it nine oh three that morning. Something was wrong. I knew a weekend because we had been in mediation with Mike for most of the year, because I had moved about an hour and a half away, and we were going to put him a private Christian school, and I have this great, big life for him, and we were going back and forth and back and forth, and it was getting down to school was starting within a week. And I think he knew he was going to lose, and so he took. His life at about ten am, because you get like a half hour leeway in the court order to be late or whatnot. And at nine oh three I was just I sit by the front window waiting for him, and I knew something was wrong. So by ten am I called the Sheriff's apartment to ask for a wellness check because Mike had done this before, I think twice before, where he had kept him three or four hours where I wasn't able to get in touch with him, find him, and the agony and the not knowing, and just. This was different. This was worse, and I knew it was worse because by the time we got to eighteen hours, no communication, no nothing. I mean, Mike throughout the years had manipulated the communication between the two of us so badly. He pretended he didn't have a cell phone, which they found two. Then we would only communicate by email, then he would block me. Then he said it would only have a landline and have an answering machine, and shut the answering machine off. So that's what was happening. The day that he went missing, that Monday, was I would call and call the house and it would just go straight to you have reached. There's no answering machine, you know what I mean. So I called the police. They went out, they did a wellness check. They said, no one's there, blah blah blah. When I dropped rowing off there was a white camper to the right of the driveway and a black truck in the driveway. Well huh, they went out and there was that wasn't there. So that's when we put a camp missing. I started, right, and so I thought, you know, maybe he's they're out camping because they had been camping like two years ago. And so. Probably about six o'clock, I called the sheriffs again and said, you know, can we get well another wellness check? And finally my husband's like, you know what, I'm gonna call the sheriff's department in our county, Kent County, Okay. And they actually came to our. House and he goes, I've already called all the phone numbers that I have for Mike. I'm like, how many do you have? Had four different phone numbers And I'm like what wow, And then he's yeah, So the Kent County sheriff said get in your car now and go up to Isabella County Sheriffs getting their face and tell them how scared you are for this kid because of what's going on. Right, And we did, and we drove an hour and a half. It was probably one thirty in the morning, so technically Tuesday morning. We got up there and I'm pleading. I'm like, listen, you don't understand this is different. He doesn't keep him overnight like this, he doesn't not not communicate. This long like that. There's something wrong. And I even tried to play it off like I was worried about Mike too, which I really definitely was not. But yeah, when we would when we went to leave, my husband was like, you should have been more hysterical. I'm like, no, I wanted to be calm and respectful so they would treat me seriously and nothing. It didn't matter. They they didn't, they didn't care, they didn't they they placated me. They just were. You could tell they were standing there just to listen and then get rid of me. And it was so sick and to drive home that night without him, and then I didn't sleep in my. Older kids. I listed him as missing that night. And my older kids, Bailey and Shelby, called me at like three or four. In the morning and they're like, Mom, what is going on. I'm like, calm down, We're gonna find him. It's gonna be okay. And I got up and I. Drove straight to my attorney's office in mot Pleasant. My husband stayed home just in case, you know, he dropped him off a day later or something. I got to my attorney's office, Gavin mcclintick, wonderful attorney, such a good good man, and he was already there, already at work. I'm doing the emergency motion, all the things we had to file. So I went with him to the courthouse to file the emergency motion for the judge to sign, and I stood there waiting. I talked to my caseworker, I, you know, just hanging around. So then when we were done at the courthouse and that we just. Had to wait for the judge to sign it, we couldn't figure out what to do, like, you know, where do you look? What do you do? So we went to my mom's for a little bit and then they said, you know what, forget Isabella County Sheriffs. Go to the state police. So I did with my husband and my step son, and I started talking to them, telling them what's going on, and I could tell they're taking me serious, they care. They were okay, And so then the exactly and the the cop said to me, he goes, listen, we're going to go out and do another wellness check and if they come back he's still not there, then we'll listen to him as missing. And I just start bawling. I'm like, finally, yeah, yeah, that's what you need. Yeah. So I was at the state police post and actually the state police didn't get a chance to go out there to do the wellness check because the Isabella County Sheriff's already there. And they came back and I was standing by the window and the dispatcher, a woman from the Sheriff's department, called the state police and said, this is a civil matter. We've already spoke to her, sent her on her way. That is absolutely ridiculous. It is not a civil matter. This is a criminal matter at this point. I mean, he has to take and like, what in the world. Well, and here's the thing. They think it's civil because it's a custody thing. But here's the thing. He's a felon, and I had told them throughout the years. I had told this Isabelle County Sheriff's apartment, CPS, friend of the court, my attorney, that he had guns. You're not allowed to have guns if you're a felon. Obviously he had them, and I knew he did, so that should have made a criminal rate then and there, but they didn't take the time to look that up or give a crap. We even told him that night, that Monday night, at one thirty in the morning when we got up there, that he has guns, like and nothing. So we went home without him, and I hadn't sleep. Did I sleep? I slept a little. I did not sleep that night. But then Wednesday morning, we got up and our plan, what was our plan? I don't even remember. We're gonna go back up. We're gonna go back up, try and file another EXPARTE. Well, yeah, we're gonna try and file another emergency motion. But in the morning my girlfriend was like, you gotta just how about just go about your day as usual. I was already being contacted by some news people to be interviewed that he was missing, and so I had an appointment to get my eyelashes filled because I'd been crying so much. They look like strangled to Rantela's. So I left the house and as soon as I left, Kent County Sheriff's pulled in and my husband was left home for over an hour, about an hour and twenty minutes. Knowing that I was coming home to that. I left my appointment, just talking to my girlfriend. You know, have you heard more stuff? Whatever's There was another news article that came out or something, and I was reading. It and then I got in the car to come home. I turned down our street and there were there was a Kent County sheriff and an undercover sheriff two houses down. And I pull in my driveway. There's no cars there or anything. And I go to the backyard to talk to my husband and be like nosy neighbor and be like, oh my god, do you see the cops? So the neighbor's house kind of thing, and he wasn't there, and I've. W I walked into the house. And it's all my pastor from my church first, and my husband crying and my parents. Like a full metal wall. He hit me, and there was like six or seven sheriffs there from Kent County. We still don't know time of death with nobody's reached out to us, no detectives, no nothing, and we don't have anything. I don't. We talked to Michael made, the sheriffs from the Isabelle County, and he said it did look like to them that he had been sleeping when it happened, which I I pray for, But the problems go ahead. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. I just know when we were talking on the phone. You had said when they first went. He could have still been alive, yes, and then when they went back out. There was no longer there, so they would have done their job. Yes, yes, So that camper never left the property. So it's a long piece of property that goes back towards a river, and the camper was back on the back part of the property. So if they would have just searched more or taken us seriously right, I do believe he passed away in my heart. I think it was Tuesday night or Wednesday morning, but it was not on Monday. I know that because there's we've got body cam footage and we do have a police report that we got from would TV eight we're getting stuff from newspeople, not from detectives or anyone involved. And the bodycam footage shows on Monday the black truck was in the garage and then I think it was Tuesday afternoon they found the white camper on the property. Which is the most disturbing part is there's several vehicles on the property and so's his bike and there's like a little trailer behind the bike that he would or ride rowing around in. It was freshly pulled up to that trailer and all the blinds were pulled. They were inside that trailer. They were there, and I guess there were no bullet holes at that time on Tuesday afternoon. By Wednesday morning there was a bullet hole and his sisters had found them. I don't understand how fifty two hours you. Said it the Isabella countyff right, So they not only didn't do a wellness check to the best of their ability or even to a basic ability right, they are not communicating with you. It's the Kent County Sheriff that has to come in and help you. Guys. You still have no information from the Isabella County Sheriff who they are the ones who need to do the investigation because it's there, and they still have not told you anything. Right, Right, they didn't, They didn't they found the camp. Do not understand that they never told us that they found the camper on the property. We didn't know that. We didn't know that until they told told me that. He was gone. So it's been five weeks now, just over and and I try to process this in a healthy way. I've tried to flip the script on my thinking and tell myself that God chose me to be his mom for that little bit of time that I got to. He definitely did choose you to be his mom. But what I want from this, I want a rowing alert, not an amber alert. AMBERL alerts are almost impossible to get. The copy even told us that I want to row an alert for parental kidnap children. You have that thirty minute window to get your child if there's a breakdown of the car or whatever happens, you're running, late weather, whatever, you have that thirty minutes. If there's something going on in that thirty minutes that you're going to be later than that. In this day and age, with all the communications that we have available to us, you should be communicating so there's no communication and that child isn't back to that other parent. The police should be able to get involved. I shouldn't have to petition a judge, exactly. I shouldn't have to petition a judge that's already signed an order saying my kids should be home at that time. I shouldn't have to ask him twice to get my son home safe and he said no. Yeah, I don't understand how they turn, Like how there's more there's more regulation around child support than there is for custody. Like, let's get real, like, yes, yes, you guys care so much about child support, which, don't get me wrong, is a great thing. But where are all those rules. And regulations when it comes to custody If someone misses a child support payment, there you go. You're you've got to warrant, You're you're out like you are on Paul, I think you you're missing custody. And there's not something more severe? I mean, and and what that would do if there is a if we do, by God's grace, get a rowan alert, all those high conflict cases that front of the court deal with, you're gonna deal with that a lot less because that person's gonna go to jail that's causing that conflict, and that this, I mean, the evidence was there so much that he was abusing Rowan and that CPS worker. There needs to be more money allotted to CPS so they can take the time to recognize emotional and mental abuse, because emotional and mental abuse are going to lead to physical and or death almost always. And he was failed on so many levels, and I fought for him so hard. Hmm, you did. It's just frustrating knowing that, I mean, God chose me to make this change is how I try to look at it. I hate that it had to. Be my son's life, but things do need to change, and there's so many people out there dealing with it. You wouldn't believe them on the stories of people reaching out to me that they're dealing with this. I want to I want his life to mean something and mean that no other child will be. Lost to something so stupid. Yeah, we talk about it a lot in our episodes where we talk about there's so many points along the way leading up where this could have stopped, where this could have been handled, and yours is your story, is that there's so many places where you fought, you thought you fought, and they did not back you up. And it could have made one of a difference. So the CPS worker when she came back to my house that day to tell me, you know, his house is immaculate, this, that, and the other, and you know it's it's he gets to take care of his hair the way he wants on his parenting time. It's a hygiene or whatever. I looked at her, I go, if it was a little girl, you wouldn't say that true, And she had nothing to say. It was abuse the whole time, and I just felt so unheard and just. I just had this gut feeling it was. I mean, if you're doing something so blatantly obvious by shaving a kid's head, what else are you doing to this poor boy? Like how that girl, that CPS girl, didn't think of that, Like it's just mind bobbled. It's infuriating, actually, And he just was such a sweet, innocent. Little boy. He loved life. He loved he loved bragging about himself about what a great golfer he was. His golf swing. He's good, wasn't he He was so good. He has a big brother and a stepdad, that are pretty good golfers too, not so much me, but he he just had a light about him and he was. Super sweet. He had this. Spider Man costume that was skin tight, and he was tiny, skinny little kid anyway, so it was hilarious to see him in it, and he'd like sneak around the house and pretend. And then one day, it was like a few weeks after I got him that costume, I'm looking at a picture of him on my phone that I had taken of him in it, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, that's not a spider. It was a cockroach. So my husband started calling him lakuaracha. But I told all I told all the older kids. I'm like, don't you dare tell. Him that's Spider Man. Damn it. I have literally done the same. It was a crocodile. Like that, the same thing happening. He was, He was fun. I think my daughter ranted us out at some point though that he knew it was a cockroach. My god, we were out. We were all golfing. At one point, my husband and I were in one cook cart and Bryson and Rowan were in another one, and Rowan went to slide his finger in the cup holder to grab his drink, and he caught his finger. And if this will tell you how I was as a mother with him, he started screaming for Mommy, turns around to come run to me, but limps. His finger. He was like that, Like here, And when we were on vacation in a silver lake and my whole family's there, he was wrestling with his big brother Bryson, and his teeth went into his knee and he had like a teeny little. Cut on his knee. He limped like drug let. It was like dragging his leg for a whole day. He was annoying him. He is really really missed by all of us. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to say, because when you were talking about how you were unheard in all of those moments, you were, I want to say, disrespected by so many people as you tried to seek help from those who are obligated to help you. Yeah, and yes they're okay. It's not okay, And there's nothing that we could say or do to help make any. Of the easier. But I can tell you our hearts are with you a million percent and that we're going to do what we can to talk about Rowan, you would share Roy's story and to help in any way we can with Rowan's rights to make a difference for other children's and families. However you need us, we want to be there. Thank you so much. I really appreciated our whole family. Thanks you, and. I'm so so thankful that you're helping get his story out. First, I want to say thank you from all of me to Brandy for talking with us through the tears, through the laughter as beautiful memories were shared, and through the horrific tragedy that has shaken your world. We are so sorry, from the bottom of our hearts. You were Rowan's mama for a reason. It wasn't long enough, but you gave him all of you for those six years, and he has that eternally. You'll fight for him the same way you did while he was here, and he will always know you're endless love. And this next part where you fight for justice, fight for a difference. We hope to be a support system for you and your family in any way. As I mentioned in our conversation with Brandy, things need to change. We see way too often children harmed, abused, mentally, emotionally, and physically, and that can lead to even worse, just like in Rowan's case. The ultimate goal here would be to create a Rowan's law to help the families that are fighting with custody agreements and not having the other parent meet their end of the contractual agreement. These are put into place for a reason, and so when they are broken in one way or another, the parent should be held responsible immediately. In Rowan's case, he should have been dropped off at nine in the morning. There was no communication whatsoever from the father, and therefore at nine thirty am, after the allotted and agreed upon leeway time that is given by the courts, at nine thirty one, that is when the parent should be able to say, my child is not back. You need to go and get him. Then it should be as simple as that, Okay, you're right, he should be back. The leeway is up. We are gonna go do our fucking jobs. But no, in this case, it took over fifty two hours. Yes, people went out and knocked on a door. We don't want you to knock on a door. We want you to knock the door down. Then after you knock that door down, you have the right to arrest the person for withholding the child and not following the agreement that was put into place. That is now criminal and it should be taken seriously. As such, creating a Rowan's Law would give the parent or guardian the ability to get the help they need for their child in circumstances such as these, such as parental kidnapping. I truly believe this would help parents to be held accountable. Then if they're not, it's jail time, goodbye, follow your court order, or get the f out of here. As much as we see cases where we talk about custody disputes, children going missing, children abuse, children murdered, Charlie and Braden Powell, Gabriel Fernandez, Kira Franchetti, just to name a few, these are all cases that CPS was involved, and Brandy she wants to find a way to help get more funds for CPS so they have enough employees, they have the right training necessary, the ways to do their jobs accurately, to pay attention to the mental and the emotional abuse that's happening as well, because it leads to physical abuse, and in too many cases it leads to murder, and in Rowan's case, Brandy stood in front of the court, She stood in front of the judge, and they didn't take her seriously. They didn't hear her. And that's why, right now, right here, she needs to be heard. A change needs to happen for these children, for these families. I wanted to read two lines from Rowan's obituary. Rowan was a delightful little boy whose laughter could light up any room. His infectious giggles and playful names brought joy to everyone around him. He had a unique ability to find humor in the simplest of things, making even the dullest days feel like an adventure. Whether he was cracking jokes or pulling silly faces, he had a knack for making people smile. Although Rowan's time with us was brief, his impact was profound. He taught us all the importance of laughter, love, and living. Life to the fullest. He will be deeply missed by his family, friends, and everyone who had the privilege of knowing him. Brandy, her husband, Brian, Rowan's seven siblings in their beautifully combined family, Bailey, Carly, Shelby, Ethan, Aiden, Marrek and Bryson, and the rest of their family are all suffering the loss of Rowan. A GoFundMe has been set up a family friend for Brandy and the family to offer support through this difficult time. Everything we talked about today will be in the show notes, including the Rest in Peace Rowan Moury facebook page, the GoFundMe page if you're able to donate, and any other way to follow along to help us make a change. Thank you all for taking the time to listen to Brandy today. Please keep her and her family in your thoughts and prayers through this truly devastating time. We will talk to you next Tuesday. Until then, put on an orange shirt and go out of your way to make someone smile today for Rowan. Okay, love you bye.