Joyce Maleki & Sister Cathy Cesnik

All witnesses, suspects, and purses of interest are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Warning. This episode contains graphic crime scene detail, as well as talk of sexual assault. Please listen with discretion. Welcome to Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie. Let's talk right now in true crime, and then together we're going to work on warming up some cold cases. Let's go. Hey, guys, welcome to this week's episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie. We are going to get into a little right now in true crime, and then we're going to get into today's episode, so we are going to keep it pretty short and sweet for right now. In true crime this week, the two most notable things that happened were the sentencing of Corey Richens, which we're going to get into, and the fact that they overturned the verdict in Elec Murdo's trial and he's getting a new trial, which is the most murda thing I think I've ever heard. I knew that this was going to happen. I knew that this was a possibility, and that is exactly where we are today. So we're going to dig into all of that. I did first want to get into the Corey Richins sentencing, which just so happened to be on Eric Richards's forty fourth birthday. And I don't think it's ever been more of a full circle moment than it was yesterday. During the sentencing, Corey did speak. I am going to play a little bit of her speaking in front of the court here in a minute. We also heard from members of Eric's family as well, and we heard that his children, he and Corey's children, are fearful that their mom is one day going to get out of jail and come and harm them, which absolutely just breaks my heart because she killed Eric with these kids in the house, the three sons that. They share together. She thought nothing about taking his life with them still in the house, and then profiting off of it because she wrote a bok book, a children's book on grief. This woman, allegedly, I guess it's not alleged anymore, is the lowest of the low and she was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole, which I am very happy about. And we're gonna hear a little bit from Corey herself because she has some things to say. Apparently, I am not gonna play the whole thing because it is pretty long, but I'm gonna link up below in the show notes. It's about forty minutes her little spiel that she does, so I'm gonna play a few minutes of it. Now, my sweet baby boys, And now that today an you don't want to speak to me, have a relationship with me. You may think you hate me. That's okay. I will never be angry at you for your feelings. When the day comes that you're ready, I will be here for you, waiting for you and loving you. But I need you boys to know and understand that I have been desperately trying to get contact with you any. Way that I can for years. That all of my communication has been completely cut off from me since early twenty twenty four. And now I will use any opportunity I can to get a message to you, even if that means sharing. It publicly to the world, fully restrained in my jail clothes, and one of the. Most horrible situations possible. I don't care, and I'm not embarrassed or ashamed by any of it. All I care about is you, boys. I will do whatever it takes for you to hear the truth from me and to come home to you. For the time being, I don't know when that is or when my next opportunity will be, so for now, bear with me as I'm trying to consolidate everything I've wanted. To share with you for the life few years, with everything I want you to know until I'm able to speak to you again. And one long message. I don't look if you may not be ready to hear it today, that's okay. My hope is one day you will be. May six of twenty twenty four, temporary custidy was transferred from the State of Utah Child Services to your aunt Katie uncle Clinn. My last video call with you boys was several weeks prior to that, around April twenty fourth to twenty twenty four, when you were still in the state's custody. Once temporary custody was transferred to Katie and Glinn, against my wishes, they'd cut. Off all my communication between you boys and I, because years before I would never have a trial. I warned Social Services. That if they gave custody of you to the Virgin's family, it would be the last. Time I would be able to see or speak to you boys. Again, and your opinion of me in this case and wild allegations was soon mirror those. Of the Ridges family. And that's exactly what happened. You need to know the dark side of the family bought a long, hard battle for custody, but was eventually ignor than tonight. Since the temporary custody was granted to Katie and Clint, they. Have not allowed me to see or speak to you. No more video calls, no more visits. They blocked the phone number for the jail, so I can't call you Birthday. Cards, Christmas cards, the letters I would send you, boys, they were all returned or the rabbed. All of my contact was cut off more than two years ago. So please please ask them. Please ask them for your cards, for your letters. If I tried calling. You, please just ask them, whether. It's now or in ten years. The one thing I need you boys to know so I did not abandon you. I did not just walk out of your wives one day to never return, to, never call, to never show up. Regardless of what anyone tells you, I would never ever leave you, boys, And I am so sorry if for even one second you thought that I did, If for even one second you. Thought that I didn't love you, because that couldn't be further from the truth. Your boys are my world, the reason I continue to wake up every day and fight to come home. You're my reason for living. I understand that. You're in a difficult situation mentally, emotionally. And physically. I understand you guys have been through an. Extremely difficult time as fast four years. You should never have to deal with such tragedy, and I am so so sorry that you were going through this. You boys have the right to be angry and sad and confused, feeling survival. Mode, have questions. All of this is completely valid. Your feelings are completely valid, and one day, when this is all over, we can sit. Down and talk about all of this and sort it all out. And I promise you boys, one day it will be over. I'm not perfect. I have succeeded and I have failed as a person, as a wife. As a parent. We all do. I am done plenty of things I am not proud of. Some I regret, some I don't, some are not ashamed of, and. Some I not. I regret things I have done right in my life to later find out they were for the wrong people. I have said things I shouldn't have. I've done things I shouldn't have. Sometimes I have said what I should or not meant what I did say. There are things I can't change and. Long overdo apologies that I owe. They are what ofs and culves and shuttves. We all have them, We have all done them, and. You've borne as well too. One day, but in your own way, and that's okay. That's life and more human. Nobody is all good or all bad. We just get portrayed that way. You're going to succeed and achieve amazing things in this life. You're also going to make mistakes and fail at some things, So use those opportunities to grow. And to learn. They do not define you ever, let other people make you think that they do. Where you are not defined by our best year or worst moments. We fall somewhere in the middle, ever evolving, and you boys are ever evolving. Okay, we don't need to listen to any more of that. That was enough. I think she's a really rich saying something about how she didn't abandon her kids when she literally murdered their father with them in the house. She abandoned her children the day that she made the decision to do that the day that she attempted to murder him and wasn't successful and then still went through with it. That is called being a bad person. And I am so glad that this woman got life without the possibility of parole. I am glad her kids are nowhere near her and they're not in content. And good on Eric's family for blocking all contact and not letting the kids be in touch with their mother, because she is an awful, horrible, horrible. Human in my opinion. Okay, next order of business. Is the Elec Murda of it all, The South Carolina Supreme Court unanimously five to zero overturned his murder convictions on May thirteenth of twenty twenty six. They have officially ordered a new trial. And this is all due to the jury tampering by former Collington County Clerk of Court Rebecca Becky Hill. She, as we know, was. Accused of influencing jurors to secure a guilty verdict in order to sell her book that she wrote. And I honestly just can't believe this. I can believe it, but I can't believe it. As soon as all the jury tampering stuff came out. I knew that he was going to get off and he was going to get a new trial. And it doesn't change the fact that he is going to be behind bars because of all the financials of it all. But this changes a lot for the double murder trial. In the first murder. Trial, they were allowed to bring in all the financials. I don't think they're going to be allowed to bring in the financials during the second trial. Also, I think it's going to give him and his team a heck of a lot of time to maybe come up with more and be able. To defend him a little better. I don't really know. I can't believe that we're going to have to sit through another trial. Is he going to testify, because we know what happened last time when he testified. It's going to be a lot. So I'll be sure to keep you guys updated on this. But I'm telling you, the murders saga never ever ends. It is continuous, ongoing. There's always drama. I guess I shouldn't have expected anything less, but here we are. He is getting another trial. I'll be sure to keep you guys up dated on that. Before we get into. Today's episode, I did want to share with you guys. I am dealing with a little bit of a mental health struggle right now personally, and I'm going to be kind of taking a little bit of a step back from the podcast. Not to say I'm not going to be releasing episodes because i am. I'm just probably going to be taking little intermittent breaks here and there. I next week, I'm going to be sharing an episode from my friends Ben and Sierra over at the Unsolved Couple. They do Unsolved Mysteries recaps, and they have so graciously shared an episode with me, So I'm going to have that up on the feed next week, and I'm hoping I can have an episode out the following week that is one of my episodes. And I'm just going to be trying to not overwhelm myself. I very much enjoy working on the podcast, but at the same time, it is work, and I'm taking some time off of my regular full time job and just going to be taking a step back. So I'm also going to step back a little bit from the podcast. Just for the time being. This is going to be a temporary thing, but I think May is mental health Awareness month, and I really think that it's so important for us to take care of our minds, our bodies, our souls, and that is definitely what I'm going to be doing. So look forward to some other podcasters going to be dropping in on the feed, and I like that personally because it also can introduce you, guys to someone that you might not be familiar with, and that's how we learn and grow and we support others. And that's what it's all about. So I appreciate you guys for tuning in every week and listening and supporting me and supporting the podcast and understanding when I might have to take a week off here and there. But we are going to go ahead and get into today's episode. Alrighty guys, Today we are jumping in to a brand new case, and let me just tell you, this is one of the biggest rabbit holes I think I have ever been in. I found this case and didn't really know much about it, and it turned into me binging an entire docu series of eight episodes in one day because I could not stop watching. There is a lot to this one, and I'm gonna do my best to try to break it all down. There is a lot going on here. And when I say a lot, I mean there's a lot. You have to watch this docuseries. I'm going to be talking about it throughout and also linking it below in the show notes. And this one, honestly, I've never in my life been speechless on a case, and this one has me speechless. So on today's episode, I'm going to be telling you about the unsolved nineteen sixty nine homicide of twenty year old Joyce Malucky out of Baltimore and Maryland. In twenty seventeen, renewed interest into Joyce's case happened when a screening of the Netflix docuseriies The Keepers discussed the possibility that Joyce's disappearance and murder were tied to that of Nune Catherine Ann Sesnik, who was also abducted and murdered in November of nineteen sixty nine, just days before Joyce. Their cases are very similar, and when you google one, you get the other. There is speculation that they are connected. So we are going to unpack it all. We're going to discuss everything in this episode, and we're going to dive into these two cases. Joyce Helen Malucky was born on June twelfth of nineteen forty nine in Baltimore, Maryland, to her parents Casmir Malucky Senior and Doris Malucky. She had four brothers and once. Joyce is described by her youngest brother as a beautiful person who treated everyone with kindness and respect. She was strong and she was driven. At the time of her death, she was only twenty years old and living in Lansdowne, Maryland, with her family at a house located on Laverne Avenue. The family attended Saint Clement Roman Catholic Church and would go to church every Sunday. Joyce worked as a credit control administrator at a liquor distribution firm named Keywine and Liquor Company. For about seven weeks prior to her disappearance and death, Joyce had been dating a soldier who was stationed at nearby Fort Meade. Everything starts on a Tuesday evening, November eleventh of nineteen sixty nine, Joyce had asked her parents if she could take their car to do some Christmas shopping at the local Horndale Mall located in glen Burnie. She then had plans to go meet up with her boyfriend at the local army base where he was stationed. Joyce's parents gave her permission to do this, and Joyce had her own car, but her car was a little bit older and a little less reliable, so it's assumed that's why she wanted to use her parents' car for shopping, because she was going to be traveling a little further away from home and wanted to make sure that she had this reliable car. However, her parents' car was with her younger brother, Daryl, who was seventeen at the time, and he had a job at a local fast food restaurant in Baltimore. So Joyce went to this restaurant where her brother worked to switch cars with her brother, and he said it really wasn't any problem to him because he worked very close to home and he knew that he could make it from the restaurant to home with no problem. But unfortunately, that exchange of the cars was the last time that he was see his sister, and that was their last interaction, a simple quick switch of keys, not knowing the horror that would unfold for the Malechi family over the next two days, Joyce went off and on her way, and when she didn't return home that night, it was assumed that she had spent the night with a female friend. The next morning, they contacted that friend and she said she hadn't seen Joyce and Joyce was not with her. It was shortly after that that the family reported Joyce missing. It was very unlike her not to report back to anyone in her family, and it wasn't normal for her not to come home. She always came home. At this point in time in nineteen sixty nine, all of the Malechi kids still lived at home. Nobody had moved out, and all of them would always come home. They could go out and do whatever they were doing, but they always reported back home. A couple of hours after the family report awarded Joyce missing, her brother Jerry, had drove to Fort me to speak with her boyfriend. The boyfriend had said that Joyce never showed up for their date. On his way back home, Jerry kind of searched around the area that he knew Joyce had said she was going, and he found the car that Joyce had been driving, her parents' car. It was parked ten feet from a phone booth in front of the Vegas Club, which was either a liquor store or a bar that was located in Odenton. The keys were still in the angdistion, her glasses were on the dashboard, and there were shopping bags located on one of the passenger seats. There was also blood found on a rear seat in the car. They alerted authorities and the car was taken by those authorities for processing. Investigators questioned her boyfriend and were able to confirm from phone records that Joyce had called her boyfriend from the mall where she had been shopping at ninety five. She said that she was on her way to him and would be there in about fifteen minutes, but she never showed. He said everything during their interaction seemed normal, so he really thought nothing of it. He said, he waited for her until around midnight, and then eventually he returned to his barracks when she didn't show up again. Very important to remember that we're talking about nineteen sixty nine. There was no cell phones. In order to contact somebody, you had to pull over and use a payphone. Now, they were readily available. There was probably a payphone at every single rest stop, gas station, restaurant, anything like that. Back in those days, payphones were readily available. However, you still had to pull over to use the payphone, so the family went all day Wednesday without any word from Joyce, which again was super unusual. On November thirteenth, which was Thursday morning, two hunters who were constructing a deer blind on the western perimeter of Fort Meade also known as Soldiers Park, found a body. The body was partially submerged on the bank of a river. The victim was fully clothed except for her shoes, and the victim's hands were tied behind her back. It was not believed that the victim's murder had occurred at this location, that the body had been discarded over a six foot bank and then partially entered the river. The scene was secured by the FBI and military police, of course, were involved, and the body was transported to the Baltimore City Morgue for autopsy. The victim was then positively identified later in the day by Joyce's family as Joyce. And I cannot even imagine the horror that these poor family members felt knowing that Joyce was missing and then their body was found. I imagined that this entire thing was war for them, and honestly, it's still terrible because to this day, there are still so many unanswered questions about what happened to Joyce. Her siblings have all been very vocal about everything that has happened. They recall this time in their life and how horrific it was they had to go there and identify Joyce, and it's just something that I don't think ever leaves your mind and your brain. It's always in the back of your mind, probably every single day, at every single moment. So I can't even imagine what they've been through over the many decades since Joyce was taken. Joyce's cause of death was determined to be strangulation. It was also reported that Joyce was also assaulted. She had numerous scratches, bruises, and abrasions on her face and body, and she had fifteen superficial cuts to her neck. She fought with her attacker, and skin and flesh scrapings were discovered under her fingernails and were collected. It was believed that she had been deceased when she was placed in the river. She also had a single knife wound to her throat. Whoever did this to Joyce is obviously a monster. This was a horrific death. Joyce was laid to rest on November eighteenth of nineteen sixty nine, with still so many questions about what happened and why anyone would want to harm Joyce. Due to Joyce's body being found on federal property, it fell under the jurisdiction of the FBI. There were ten agents assigned to her case, and there were several leads that had been pursued, but nothing ended up coming of those leads. It was really a scary time for this small town in Maryland. The community was also reeling from another local woman's disappearance, one that just happened four days before Joyce went missing. Twenty six year old sister Catherine and Sesnik went missing on Friday, November seventh of nineteen sixty nine. Catherine, or Kathy as I'm going to call her sister Kathy, was a local Roman Catholic nun who taught school at the Archbishop Ko High School. She taught drama and English at the high school and was very well liked by everybody, especially her students. Because she was younger, she was really able to relate to them on a personal level, and she had a good relationship with her students. On the day she went missing, she had spoken with one of her students about how after school that day she was going to be going shopping for an engagement present for her sister, who had recently gotten engaged. She arrived back at her home, which was located at the Carriage House Apartments that was located on one thirty one North Bend Road A around three pm. She shared this apartment with her coworker and friend, sister Helen Russell Phillips, who she also taught with. She later left her apartment around seven pm to go shopping, and her plans were to go shopping at the Edmondson Village shopping Center. She also ransom errands. She cashed a check at a bank her paycheck and stopped by to get some baked items from a local bakery. A box of the baked items would later be found in her abandoned car. The engagement present was never found, but it is believed that she purchased that, and they go into extreme and extraordinary detail on this engagement present in the documentary The Keepers. There is a lot that transpires and has talked about in detail in the docuseries. So I'm just going to tell you, guys, if you want more information on this. They do talk about this engagement present in The Keepers. Go watch the Keepers because everything unfolding in this docuseriies is just absolutely wild and crazy. I'm not getting into all of that here, but go watch The Keepers. So, after Kathy didn't return home, her roommate had called two of Kathy's friends, who were both Catholic priests, and they came over and they found Kathy's car parked illegally across the street from her apartment complex. Now it's reported that residents from the complex saw the car around eight thirty pm and then two hours later they saw it parked illegally across from the complex. So the question was why was her car parked there, who put it there, and where was sister Kathy. None of this made any sense. Sister Kathy was reported missing and investigators searched for her with no luck. On January third of nineteen, Sister Kathy's body was found in a landfill located in the twenty one hundred block of Monumental Road. Her cause of death was determined to be blunt force trauma to the head. So that's two women within days of one another who went missing, who both turned up dead. Both were young, both had ties to the Catholic Church. Both had gone shopping before they went missing. Their cars were both found with key still in the ignition. None of this made sense. Were they connected? And were these women targeted and why? So this story is very much about to take a turn, a turn that I did not personally expect. And I do want to warn you because I am about to talk about child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church along with sex trafficking and what could be a huge, huge cover up. And I truly do believe that this entire thing is connected to Joyce's murder, which is why we're talking about it. But we're not just talking about Joyce's murder. We're also talking about the murder of sister Kathy. It intersects for a reason, and I don't believe that that's a coincidence. Like I said, if you google Kathy, you see Joyce's name. If you google Joyce, you see Kathy's name. And I think there is a reason for that. Somewhere in this story lies the connection, and I think that one day, I'm hoping that both of these cases will in fact be solved. But there is a lot of people at play here. There's a lot going on behind the scenes and where that intersect happens, we still don't know. So both Joyce and Kathy's cases were pretty cold. They went cold very quickly. There were no leads or suspects over almost the next two decades until nineteen ninety four when a woman we're going to call her Jane Doe, publicly came forward and said she had been abused at the school that she went to, the same school that sister Kathy taught at. Now this woman, God bless her, she is publicly revealed in the Keepers documentary. I'm going to call her Jane Doe. That is what she first went by when she first came out, although her identity is in the Keepers. Like I said, I want you guys to go watch that this poor woman we're calling her Jane, Like I said, So Jane was abused as a child by her uncle, and she was a student at the Archbishop ki Oh High School. Now, I do feel it is very important for me to say that this high school was an all girls' school, that is the school that sister Kathy taught at. So Jane had attended the school she had been abused used by her uncle, and she went ahead and went to confession and confessed that she had been sexually abused by this family member. And the priest that she confessed to was named Neil Magnus, and he basically told her that he needed to know and see who she was, and he told her that due to the sexual abuse, that she needed to be healed, and his way to do so was also to sexually abuse her. When I say, I felt so much pent up rage when I saw this man's face on my screen, his photo on my screen, and what he did and took advantage of this young girl who had already been abused by a family member and was obviously upset. This was weighing heavily on her, and she went to confession to talk to him about it, and he used it against her and used it for his own statistic, creepy fantasies. I don't even know what to say. He is an absolutely disgusting human abusing authority and using religion and the whole thing like if you do this, you're going to be forgiven was a tactic that he used, and then unfortunately it got worse because he brought in somebody that was worse than him. In my opinion, one of the worst humans ever on planet Earth, and that is Father Joseph Maskell. Not only did he also begin to abuse Jane, but he was trafficking this poor young girl to all of his other perverted, creepy friends from all walks of life, men that worked in the Catholic Church, men in law enforcement. The abuse of Jane lasted from nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy two. Jane was only fourteen years old when all of this started. So we're gonna pivot again a little bit and talk about Father Joseph Maskell, my arch nemesis at this point in time. Father Anthony Joseph Maskell was ordained on May twenty second of nineteen sixty five, at the age of twenty six. His peers described him as highly intelligent and to be fascinated with psychology. In nineteen seventy two, he earned a master's degree in psychology. After he was ordained, he worked at Sacred Heart of Mary, located in Baltimore, from nineteen sixty five to nineteen sixty six. Then he transferred to Saint Clement Church in Lansdowne. And if that sounds familiar, it's because it's the same church that Joyce and the Malache family went to Again. I don't think that's a coincidence. He worked there from nineteen sixty six to nineteen sixty eight, and then he went to Our Lady of Victory from nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy. He also worked at the Archbishop Keyo High School in Baltimore in nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy five, where he worked as a counselor and a chaplain. This is where he worked alongside Sister Kathy. He also lived in the Saint Clement Catholic Church Rectory, not far from the Malechy home. The rectory was located at two oh nine First Avenue. Father Maskell also had in his career served as chaplain for the Maryland State Police, the Baltimore County Police Department, the Maryland National Guard, and the Air National Guard, where he was a lieutenant colonel. He kept a police scanner and a loaded gun in his car at all times. We are talking about a man who was very powerful and knew all of the right people. He had a brother who also worked in law enforcement. He was later removed from the school by a headmistress after she received complaints about him from parents. The Archdiocese of Baltimore actually sent Joseph to the Institute of Living, which is a psychiatric facility located in Connecticut. He was sent here in nineteen ninety two and nineteen ninety three due to the abuse allegations that would come forward. He was then sent to Saint Augustine Roman Catholic Church and served as a pastor from nineteen ninety three to nineteen ninety four before he was prohibited from the ministry after more abuse allegation surfaced in nineteen ninety four. He died of a stroke in two thousand and one at the age of sixty two. And I typically don't like to celebrate the death of others, but hell got a whole lot hotter on that day of two thousand and one. So we're going to go back to Jane because she is such a key person in all of this, and I think without her coming forward and her story being public and out out there, I don't think the connection between Sister Kathy and Joyce Malecki would have ever even been made. So Jane had suppressed so many of the traumatizing memories she had from those times in her life. She went on to grow up she got married, she went on to have her own family, and she pushed everything down until she couldn't anymore, and she started to remember things. She recalled the abuse that went on and on. She recalled that sister Kathy had come to her and asked if she was being hurt by the priests she had in fact confided in her. She said that Kathy was the only person who tried to help her. She also recalled that father Maskele had taken her to see Kathy after she went missing. He took her to the place where Cathy's body was dumped. She recalls the details of that encounter, which you can watch more in detail in the Keeper's docuseries. It's graphic and horrible, and basically he told her, you see what happens when you say bad things about people. Again, these are all memories that she had suppressed over the years, likely as a coping mechanism after years and abuse and torment by this deranged human father Mascule. When she did come forward, they basically couldn't do much about it until other people came forward to substantiate the claims that Jane had made, which in my opinion, is such bullshit because Why isn't her story enough? Why does there need to be more to believe a victim was a victim of something like this? Why would she make this up? This is such an elaborate, detailed story and obviously it's traumatizing. Why would she willingly put herself through that just for the heck of it? Why does there have to be more than one victim for her to be believable? But it turns out, in fact, that Jane wasn't the only one. It would later come out that long before Jane was abused by father Maskell, another individual was also abused by him, a young boy named Charles France. He would go on to become a successful dentist, grow up to have a very successful life. He was a young boy, he went to Saint Clement and Maskell abused him there. He confided in his mom about this abuse, and she actually went to the archdiocese and reported it and complained about it in nineteen sixty seven. Then they transferred him to high school and Maskell continued to stalk and creep on him throughout his four years of high school. So the archdiocese knew about the abuse of Charles, and it was swept under the rug, and then he went and worked at this school that Jane was at and ended up abusing her and trafficking her. And when she came out in the early nineties, they acted like they had nothing else on father Maskal and there was no other abuse allegations, which was not true because they had those allegations from Charles, which is just sickening. This all could have been prevented if they would have acted on the abuse allegations in nineteen sixty seven. So unfortunately, Jane and Charles weren't the only ones. There were more people that came forward, and as of twenty twenty three, I am honestly sure that there is probably more now. As many as thirty nine people came forward with abuse claims towards Joseph Maskell. After everything came out, Mascal fled to Ireland. Mascal always maintained his innocence until he died in two thousand and one, and though he was never charged for his sexual abuse use against the victims, the Archdiocese of Baltimore had settled with sixteen of Maskal's possible victims for a total of four hundred and seventy two thousand dollars including Jane. No money will ever fix the awful shit that that horrific human father Joseph Maskell did. But honestly, it goes a lot deeper than him. So, like I said, you have to watch The Keeper's docuseries. It is probably one of the best well done docuseries documentaries I've ever watched. It was seven episodes, and honestly, throughout the whole thing, I changed my mind multiple times about what happened to sister Kathy and Joyce. I believe the answers do lie somewhere in the story. I believe that it is bigger than Maskell. After the documentary came out, they exhumed Joseph Maskell's body in February twenty seventeen. The DNA profile did not match that to the crime of Kathy Sesnik. However, they said that this does not rule him out as a suspect. My personal belief, I don't think Joseph Maskell murdered anybody, but he was involved and there were a lot of other people involved. I believe he had enough power and he was really into the psychology of it all. I believe he was a grade a manipulator and he was able to get other people to do his dirty work for him. And like I said, in the Keeper's documentary, they go into a lot of other detail. There are a lot of other people involved in this that come forward with stories of people that they knew that they believe were involved and reasons they think they were involved. These are people completely separate from one another, who all possibly had involvement in the death of sister Kathy. But I do believe that Sister's death and Joyce's death are connected in some way, shape or form. So in December of twenty twenty three, the body of Joyce Malechi was also exhumed in order to extract new DNA evidence. The results of that are still not publicly known. Law enforcement never was able to connect anything from Joyce's death to sister Kathy's death. Like I said, they really had nothing to tie the two together other than the glaring things that make it obvious that these two cases could possibly be connected. Like I said, the Malech's attended church at the same church the father Mascal was tied to. Also, the place that he was staying at, the rectory, was very close to the Malechi home. So law enforcement very much says there is nothing that connects father Mascal to Joyce Malechi or the Malechi family in any way, shape or form. It's very much just coincidence that he worked at that church and then she also would go on to be abducted and murdered. However, after Joyce was killed, the Maleche family got a card in the mail and it was from the church and Father Maskell following Joyce's death, So the writings on the wall in my opinion as to the involvement of that sector of things to Joyce's death and to Sister Kathy's death. And I'm not the only one who thinks that. There are two women who have taken this case by the horns literally, and they are two women named Jemma and Abby. Now these women were actually students of Sister Kathy and went to school at the school where all of the sexual abuse happened. They know Father mascul Although they weren't sexually abused at school. Like so many of the other people that are involved in the story, they very much wanted to figure out what happened to Sister Kathy and that in their research they realized the striking similarities between Sister Kathy and Joyce's disappearance. It's hard to deny. They were both young women, they both had ties to the Catholic Church, they had similar builds and statures. They both had gone shopping. Both of their cars were found abandoned, both of the keys were still in the ignition, both were found dead. It all just is too coincidental to not be related. Gemma and Abby have also had the pleasure of working closely with Joyce's family because there is a reason to believe that these cases are connected. I truly think a lot of the reason for them of never officially being able to connect these two cases is because the FBI was in charge of Joyce's case, so there was a lot of issues with the jurisdiction over it, whether it was local or the FBI. And I honestly just think that the ball was dropped in Joyce's case, So it seems so. The high school was renamed to Setan Keyo High School, and it officially closed in twenty seventeen. It was located at twelve oh one Caton Avenue in Baltimore. The buildings of Setan Keyo have officially been torn down and the site now houses a City Logistics squarehouse and other offices. I am so glad that they tore this place down because there was an evil, evil, evil presence at this place. It just seems like it held so many horrific things. The abuse of so many children happened behind the walls of that school. And I truly do believe in my heart and soul that Sister Kathy became privy to that information and was basically threatening to turn them in. And I think she was going to do it, and they got wind of that, and that turned into her losing her life. I eight thousand percent think that that was the motive behind her death. I think that she knew too much, and not only did she know too much, but she was going to speak on it because that would have blown up so much for these perverted, creepy men, and as it should, of course, but they didn't want anything to ruin what they had going on, so they eliminated Sister Kathy for that reason. So I know this episode was a lot. I know there was a lot of different like side stories in the story of Joyce, and I really when I first started researching it, I did not think it was going to turn into this. I don't think for me that there's any question that the deaths are connected. We just have to find the commonality between the two cases. Kathy was wise to the abuse that was going on and was going to take it to the top, so she was targeted. Joyce's death is still a giant question mark as to why she was targeted and killed. Her family wants justice for her and they want to know what happened and who's responsible. Unfortunately, a lot of the key players in this story are getting older, which means that anyone that could have something that could lead to answers is also getting older, and the time is unfortunately running out. Joyce's dad passed away in nineteen eighty at age sixty, Her mother passed away in twenty twelve at age eighty eight. Her brother Donald passed in twenty sixteen. Her oldest brother, Pat passed in twenty twenty five at the age of eighty two. Donald and Pat both participated in The Keeper's docu series and expressed how important it is for them to get answers, so that that is kind of where things stand. My one ask is that you guys go and follow the Facebook page for Kathy and Joyce and go watch the Keeper's docuseriies on Netflix for a lot more context to the story. Believe me when I say it is a hell of a lot deeper than just Father Maskal. This is a giant cover up within the Catholic Church and it doesn't stop or end with Kathy and Joyce. It's much much deeper. There is a lot more at play here, and it honestly absolutely discuss me that something like this was allowed to happen for so many years and everything was just swept under the rug. The foul Play podcast did an entire season ninety four full episodes on everything Sister Kathy's case and story. I am going to start slowly working my way through it and I'll link it below. But when I tell you this whole thing, like I said, it's so much deeper than the Father Mascal of it all. He was definitely a big part of it, but there is a lot more to it. This is a very powerful individual who had a lot of power and knew a lot of the right people, and I think that's the reason that he got away with it for so long. And he is no longer alive. So if anybody has loyalties to this man still in twenty twenty six, and they aren't speaking about what they know. The charade truly needs to end because he's gone. I don't think he miraculously stopped abusing people when he was confronted with these claims. I think he moved around a lot because he was abusive and people were onto him, and then he went to Ireland, which that's a whole nother saga and story that we're not even going to get into here. But at the end of the day, Joyce Malecki and Catherine Seysnik's cases are still unsolved, and like I said, I think the truth lies somewhere in the midst of all of this crazy stuff that we talked about in this episode. And I think, hopefully because Joyce was exhumed and they were able to get more DNA, hopefully from her an updated profile, hopefully they are able to make a connection. We are making advances in DNA technology pretty much on a minute by minute basis nowadays, so time is ticking for people that are perpetrators of these decades old cold cases. Time is running out. At the end of the day, we just need to know what happened to sister Kathy and Joyce and their cases. Need to be solved so their families can have a little bit of sense of being able to navigate through the rest of their lives at least knowing that their loved ones cases are officially solved and closed. So that is the story of Joyce Malecki and Sister Katherine Sesnik. They are both way more than the way that their lives ended. And I know I got to learn a lot about both of them throughout my research for this episode, and they both seem like they were amazing, wonderful women. They had their whole lives ahead of them and this never should have happened to them. So thank you guys so much for tuning in today to listen to this episode. And I am going to link everything below. I'm going to link the docuseries The Keepers. I'm going to link the Facebook page for Sister Kathy and Joyce. Please join that it is extremely active. There are people posting on it every single day. There is a lot going on there, and there's a lot of good conversations happening, and I think that all of those conversations are so important to getting this case solved. So I hope you guys have a great weekend, and I will see you next week for a brand new unsolved case. Have a great one and i'll see you then. Bye.