Lori Zimmerman

Warning. This episode contains graphic crime scene detail as well as talk of sexual assault. It may be sensitive for some listeners. Welcome to Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie. Let's talk right now at true crime, and then together we are going to work on warming up some cold cases. Let's go. Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie. We are going to go ahead and get into right now at your crime. A couple of things. I want to talk about a little housekeeping, and then we're going to get into the episode. So first thing is first, they have officially seated a jury for the Lori Valo trial that is set to begin opening start on Monday. Let me tell y'all, this is going to be a wild ride. With this girl representing herself, the jury and the judge are going to be in for quite the show. The judge is already a saint in my eyes because he has so much patience with her all of her shenanigans. So far. I mean we've only really seen jury selection day one, which there was also some other things that they needed to kind of talk out, and then day two it. Has been so interesting. So they have picked a jury of thirteen men and three women, which I think she's done, absolutely done, and some of those are alternates. But it's going to be very interesting to see all of this play out. Lori Cross examining witnesses is going to be probably one of the most interesting things that we're going to see in twenty twenty five. I don't know if she's going to testify. I feel like at this point she has to testify, but it's going to be oh so interesting to see. All of this play out. And I am going to do my best. To try to keep you guys updated on trial happenings. But if you don't follow along with Justin Lum on Facebook, Nate Eton on Facebook, and pretty Lies of Alibis, who I'm sure is going to be doing daily podcast episode recaps. She's what got me through Lori Valo the first time. She's what got me through the murder of it all. So definitely check out her podcast for the daily updates and everything if you haven't already, and follow Justin Lum and Nate Eaton on Facebook because they are also going to be giving the daily updates and everything else that goes along with it. All I know is I cannot wait to see this woman get up in front of a jury and a judge and a courtroom and try to argue her case and prove why it was self defense and why Charles' death was warranted when there is evidence that Charles was down on the floor when some of the quote unquote self defense shots took place. So it's going to be really interesting to see what rebuttal she has for this and how it's all going to pan out. Her cross examining expert witnesses from law enforcement and ballistics and stuff. It's going to be so interesting I don't even know. So opening start on Monday. I can't wait to hear her opening statements and I can't wait to see her get eaten alive by the prosecution. So I will keep you guys updated as more happens. But check out those three people I suggested to keep up daily for daily recaps and any trial happenings. Last thing I want to talk about real quick. There is a young man who was killed named Gavin Knupp. He was a victim of a hit and run that happened in July of twenty twenty two in Ocean Pines, Maryland. Gavin was only fourteen years old, and the circumstances surrounding the hit and run. He was in a car with his sister. He had gotten out to take a photo and he ended up being hit by a car and the driver ran. Now there's a lot more. To this, I'm just going to get into the meat and potatoes of the case. But essentially, Gavin passed away from his injuries, and Gavin's family had a pretty good idea of who was responsible, but they of course had to make sure that they dotted their eyes and crossed their t's to be able to arrest this person. So there was some different investigative delays and court setbacks, but eventually they were able to recover the Mercedes Sedan that they believed was involved in the hit and run crime, but they needed more evidence to determine who was behind the wheel, and it took them about a year, but they eventually arrested and charged Tyler Mayyu, and in August of twenty three, the judge tossed the charges because they essentially were filed in the wrong venue, and then ten months later, the Maryland Court of Appeals overruled the judge and then reinstated the charges. Tyler eventually pleaded guilty to knowingly being in an accident resulting in death. Tyler said that he didn't realize that he had hit a person. He thought he maybe hit an animal and went home, assessed the damage, told his dad, and they were advised by an attorney not to go back to the scene or anything like that, and then report the accident to the authorities. So Gavin's family has been on this road to justice for a long time. And then late last month, Judge Brett Wilson, who is the one who initially tossed the case, sentenced Tyler to a decade behind bar, suspending all but eighteen months. So basically, Kyler is getting a slap on the wrist for taking another person's life. Unfortunate, of course, it was an accident, but failing to stop and render aid is a huge part of this. It could have honestly saved Gavin's life. If he had stopped to render aid. There would have been two people at the scene instead of just one, which was Gavin's sister, because Gavin was with her at the time of the hit and run. So Gavin's sister posted a lengthy Facebook post after this sentence came down from the judge, and I'm going to read it now in full, and let me tell you it's emotional, and she is one hundred percent right with everything that she says. It's been almost three years since my brother's death and I've stayed relatively silent about the criminal case as it was progressing. But what happened in that courtroom has pushed me too far to remain quiet any longer. First, I want to say that no sentence could ever be enough, because ultimately it doesn't bring Gavin back. The court system is corrupt and deeply unfair. Something needs to be done, or at the very least, a light needs to finally shine ohen it really. Happens behind closed doors. I've heard stories about people who die because they were hit by a drunk driver and the driver gets only fifteen months in prison, while possession of drugs can result in a twenty five year sentence. The Maryland judicial system failed my family, the families before us, and will continue to fail others unless there is a change in my brother's case. Our judge was Brett Wilson, a retired judge from Cambridge who stepped in specifically for my brother's case. Unfortunately, this means no one will have a chance to hold him accountable, and his life will go on without consequence because we don't have the opportunity to not vote for him. What he said in the courtroom was what infuriates me the most. Wilson shared a story about his own son who passed away in a single car crash, and then went on to say that what happened to Gavin was fate. He experienced the pain of losing a child, yet still believes it's just fate. Fate is finding your soulmate or landing a better job opportunity, not the death of a person. Wilson also claimed that this was what Gavin would have wanted. He said, quote, I'm looking at a picture of Gavin, and all I can see is a smile. He went on to say, I see forgiveness in a smile, and I see the kind of person he was. I see he wears a cross necklace, and God is all about forgiveness. Wilson continued saying he believed that this is what Gavin would have wanted. A man who had never met my brother before thought that he knew what a dead fourteen year old would have wanted. If the roles were reversed and I had been the one killed. Gavin would have wanted Tyler to rot in jail, not be free to go on with his life. Gavin would have wanted us to have the same mentality for him. Judge Wilson didn't know my brother, and he had no right to speak on his behalf. He made an already painful experience even worse. Also felt that we weren't fought for as we should have been. We had to sit in silence in the courtroom because we weren't allowed to speak. The people defending us sat in silence too, not because they had to, but because it seemed like they had just given up. We were bound by strict rules on what we could and couldn't say per the judge's request. Meanwhile, Tyler's family was treated like royalty. My family had to remain in the courtroom after the sentencing, while Tyler's family was escorted out. We all felt as if we were treated like villains. We weren't allowed to read our impact statements toward Tyler and instead had to read them towards the judge, but his family was allowed to read theirs to us, looking us in the eye. Half of our statements were even crossed out, while Tyler's mom was allowed to look at my mom in the eye and say mother to mother. Nothing about yesterday was fair, nor was it what I expected. I wish with all of my heart that I could go back and change the events that crushed our family. And let me tell you, she is unfortunately a hundred percent right. There is a lot of talk and speculation. Tyler's family was pretty prominent in the area, and there's a lot of people that say it's the good old boys system just showing us its true colors. And I believe that that is my personal opinion just from researching all the stuff I have on this case. And it's really sad and unfortunate. And upon completing his sentence, Tyler will serve three years of supervised probation and he will get. To go on with his life. Now, this could be a totally different story if Tyler had stopped to help and render aid. The crime isn't the hit, it's the run, and that is the unfortunate, sad thing. It was an accident, It really was. At the end of the day, it was an accident. But he willingly left the scene and then once he realized maybe I didn't hit an animal, he did not return, and you can say that's under advice of an attorney or not, but regardless of that, you still hit and run. And nothing will bring Gavin back, unfortunately. But I think his sister shedding light on how broken our justice system is, how they were treated in this situation under these circumstances, is really unfortunate, really unfair, and they've already suffered enough, so I don't think that any of this is even remotely okay, and I hope that they continue to speak up and try to create change in the justice system in any way, shape or form that they can. But I did want to give you guys a little update because Gavin's story has been one of those that I've kind of followed along with. I've never, i don't believe, talked about it on the podcast, but I did want to give you guys that update because all of this recently happened in the last couple of weeks. So that is really it for right now in True Crime. We have a lot more coming up in the coming weeks, which I will be going over of course and trying to keep you updated, but we are going to go ahead and get into today's episode. Step back into the world of nineties true crime with the Unsolved Coupled podcast. Joined host Ben and me Sierra, as we dive into the iconic TV show Unsolved Mysteries, providing the updates you missed out on as a kid. It's the perfect mix of nostalgia and true crime. Catch us every Tuesday as we talk about the original Gateway drug and a true crime Unsolved Mysteries. Okay, guys, today we are jumping into a brand new unsolved case, and today I'm going to be telling you about the unsolved homicide of a fifteen year old girl named Lorie Zimmerman out of Hagerstown, Maryland in nineteen eighty four. This case was originally featured on Unsolved Mysteries, which I will be referencing at parts during the story. But more importantly, the reason I'm covering the story is despite it being over forty one years old, we still don't have resolution in Laurie's case, and many of the people involved in helping propel her case forward, like her family and certain investigators, have passed away or retired, and that means that the perpetrator is also getting older and with each passing year, there is a smaller chance that Laurie's crime. Will be solved. So by telling you her story today, I am doing so in hopes that somebody out there might know something and might finally decide that twenty twenty five is the year that they're going to come forward with information about what happened to Lourie Zimmerman. Lorraine Lourie Zimmerman. Was born on April twenty sixth of nineteen sixty eight in Hagerstown, Maryland, to her mom, Sandra, and father whose name I was not able to find, but her parents divorced and Laurie would spend most of her time with her mom, Sandra. Sandra was also remarried, so Laurie had a stepdad. Laurie is described as a happy, go lucky girl, just a few weeks shy of her sweet sixteen birthday. However, her mom does describe her as slow and immature for her age. She didn't have any boyfriends and she tended to stay close to home. In the year of nineteen eighty four, Laurie was a freshman at South Hagerstown High School in Hagerstown, Maryland, and she had the nickname of Blondie. She had blonde hair and blue eyes. And also for my research, I discovered that Laurie was in some special classes for those that were a little learning delayed, and she was made fun of for this because teenagers are simply just jerks. She was also made fun of for not having money and for not having some of the designer clothes that some of the other kids had. Like I said, teenagers are just mean humans sometimes. But things were very much turning around for Laurie and her mom. Laurie was just a couple of weeks shy, like I said, of turning sixteen, and her and her mom moved into a new home in an area where they would have a little bit more private and it was safer than where they had previously lived. So there was a lot to look forward to for Lori and her mother, Sandra. So they moved into a new house at eight twenty Concord Street in Hagerstown, Maryland, on April fifth of nineteen eighty four. This was a Thursday afternoon, so the next day, Friday, April sixth Laurie was placed in a taxi by her mom to go to school, and then after school she took a bus to her aunt's house, which was near Washington Square in downtown Hagerstown. She stayed at her ant's. House for a little while and visited with her aunt and then decided to leave a little after four pm. And from what I can tell, she left on foot. Now I did do a little Google map search, and from Washington Square to where Laurie lived it was about a twelve minute walk, which back in nineteen eighty four, twelve minutes to walk into town was really nothing. Kids did it all the time. Laurie was last seen walking on West Washington Street, and when she didn't return home, Laurie's mom pretty much immediately knew that something was wrong. Laurie's mom ended up contacting some of Laurie's friends, and no one had reported seeing her. It was then that Sandra and her husband filed a missing person's report with the Hagerstown Police Department. It was very unlike Laurie not to come home, according to different interviews and such that Sandra Laurie's mom had previously done. The police department did not take Laurie's disappear in serious and they said that they felt that she was a runaway, so they very much treated her case as such, and they ended up not even filing a complete report or starting a search until after twenty four hours after Laurie had already disappeared. Sandra was adamant that there was no reason for Laurie to leave home on her own accord. She didn't have a history of run away. She always stayed close to home. Home was her safe space, and she had just moved into a new house, so this was very out of character for her. And she was only fifteen. She was a child, and she was out alone who knows where, with who knows who? And I really really hate that. Forty one years later, parents and family still have to deal with the same sentiment from law enforcement. Agencies in these missing. Juvenile cases, where it's just a oh, they probably ran away from home. Even if they did run away from home, it's still a child out there by themselves with who knows who. We saw it in Ali Lowertzer's case, where her mom was basically told, let us know when she comes back, and that still to this day has not happened because she did not run. Away from home. And if we all know, we all watch true crime, we know that the first twenty four hours of a missing person's case, especially when it's a child, are so so important, so unfortunately, with little help from law enforcement, Laurie's friends and family decided to conduct their own search for Lourie, but they didn't have any luck in finding anything. It wasn't until eight days later, on Saturday, April fourteenth, that two hikers were off on a walk in a wooded area about fifteen miles south of Haggerstown and they noticed an area. That looked like there was pieces of cardboard. With rocks on top of it, and curiosity got the best of them and they ended up looking underneath the cardboard and they discovered a body what would soon be identified as Loriie Zimmerman's body. Laurie was found lying in a fetal position. She had the clothes on that she had last been seen wearing when she disappeared. Her bra and shirt were pulled up above her shoulders and her jacket was inside out and her arms were still inside the jacket, meaning that somebody had tried to get the jacket off of her. Jewelry was smashed to pieces. They did discover that she had been sexually assaulted and she had been beaten and suffocated. She had a fracture jaw, and the coroner ended up also finding a piece of a plastic bag that was lodged in her throat. Investigators very much believed that Laurie was killed elsewhere and then brought to the secondary location and dumped, and they attempted to conceal her body. This was a horrible blow for Laurie's family and friends who knew in their heart that something was wrong, and police didn't take it seriously, and unfortunately they were right. Something bad had happened to Laurie. But unfortunately law enforcement didn't have a whole lot to go off of, so the investigation was pretty much at a standstill from the start. They really didn't have any potential suspects. They didn't know anybody that would want to hurt the sweet fifteen year old girl, so they really didn't have anything to go on and the case was pretty much cold as as soon as it happened. So now is where the story is going to take a little bit of a turn. This is very interesting and it's an important part of Lori's story. So I am going to spend some time going. Over this next part of the story. Because this woman named Dorothy Allison gets involved, and we'll get to that in a little bit, but I want to tell you who Dorothy Allison is. So, Dorothy Allison was a self proclaimed psychic who was brought into different scenarios cases to try to see if she could offer some insight. So I'm going to give you a little background on her. She was born and raised in Jersey City, New Jersey, and she did have some pretty good credits behind her name, and there were a lot of instances where she assisted police investigations over the years. From nineteen sixty seven to nineteen sixty eight, she helped search for a missing boy who was later found who had drowned in New Jersey. She was also involved in the nineteen seventy four kidnapping case of Patty Hurst and also in the nineteen seventy six Son of Sam murders. In October of nineteen eighty, she went to Atlanta and assisted police investigating the then ongoing series of murdered children. But in this case, police said she gave a ton of names for the possible murderer and none of these proved to be helpful. Now, of course, because she was a self proclaimed psychic, there were many who claimed that she was a fraud. There were two police detectives in Patterson, New Jersey, who accused her of offering them money to say that she had been helpful in a search for a missing boy that was later found to be murdered. Dorothy, of course denied this as being true. So the jury is still out. We don't know if Dorothy Allison was legit. There's a lot of things that don't necessarily a line, but this was a tactic that law enforcement agencies used, especially back when the advancements in DNA technology weren't really a thing, so they did use this component to help their investigation sometimes. Dorothy did publish a book about her different psychic activities called a Psychic Story, and it was published in nineteen eighty. Dorothy was heavily featured on Unsolved Mysteries and from there they decided that they wanted to try to find a case where Dorothy could come in and try to see if she could help in the investigation in any way, shape or form. So, with the help of Unsolved Mysteries and the Haggerstown Police Department, they ended up bringing Dorothy Allison in to help on Laurie's case. After four years of not being able to solve it with very little to go on. So it is now nineteen eighty eight. Dorothy Allison was contacted with a detective for Laurie's case, who. Was named Keith. She did not know anything about the case, and there was no Internet back then for her to research or look anything up about Laurie's case. When she was first approached about. Coming in, she didn't even know the name of the victim or that it was a homicide. She didn't know where it took place. She didn't have any information at all. Dorothy and Keith first talked via phone, and she had said that the person who possibly killed Laurie was someone that worked at a school as a janitor. She said that she believed it was a kidnapping, abduction, and murder, and she also thought that the suspect could be suicidal and had something wrong with his feet. She mentioned the numbers one in seven, either seventeen or seventy one, but she really didn't know where this was going. She said the suspect wore glasses and sometimes had a hair piece or a wig, a beer that he has since shaved, and she also said something about maybe him being a police officer in disguise. Now here's where things are a little crazy. So she's saying all of these things which do have relevance in our story, and I'm going to get into that now how they do to kind of tie in, although she's not really giving us anything that would lead to Laurie's killer. So the detective that Dorothy was speaking with said, when she said that about a police officer in disguise, it kind of made his ears perk up because he is a police officer. Although he is in plain. Clothes because he's a detective, he said, he also wears a hair piece and he recently shaved his beard after getting back from vacation. So he said, I almost feel like she kind of clued in on me. And obviously this detective is not involved in Laurie's murder, but he is helping the case. So interesting to say the least. Dorothy then flew into Haggerstown and as soon as she met with the detective, she gave them a name. Of a possible suspect. Now it's so important to remember that this is just a direction that the case took, because investigators at this point were doing everything they could to figure out what happened to Laurie, and they wanted to explore all possible avenues. It had already been four years at this point, and there had been some success using Dorothy in some other cases, so that is why they brought her in. So her coming up with this name wasn't necessarily a slam dunk, because you still a have to find the person and prove that this person committed this crime. But if anything, I really do think that bringing Dorothy in kind of helped to give the case a little bit of a new direction. It invigorated the case a little bit. Regardless of if you believe in a psychic's abilities and their powers and their ability to help solve these cases, I think it's very interesting to kind of go down the rabbit hole and pursue this avenue. However, I will say it can also give family's false hope. Dorothy goes on to say that she believes that Lourie was standing in front of the library when she met two brothers or cousins who were friends from her neighborhood. And they picked her up in a old yellow car. Dorothy said that she felt that the victim had been raped and then murdered. And she said she got the feeling that something happened to her head and she feels like she. Might have been suffocated. Now, these are all things that Dorothy had no access. To knowing beforehand. She also said that she felt that Lourie. Was choking on something, which if you remember earlier I talked about the plastic bag being found in Laurie's throat. The lead detective said that there is absolutely no way that Dorothy would have been able to come up with this on her own, as this part of the investigation was not made public ever, so they said that after twenty four hours in Hagerstown, some of the things that Dorothy was coming up with were kind of misguided, but they did relate to Laurie in some way, shape or form, again mentioning the detective and his hair piece, and then circling back when they talked about a janitor that might have worked at a school, Lorie's stepfather is a janitor that worked out of school, although he was never ever considered a suspect. There was also the name that Dorothy had given investigators, which was Chuck Goldstein or Bernstein, also never considered a suspect, but it was a name that was put out there. However, Dorothy did believe that this person was a suspect. If nothing else, maybe this person could have information in regards to Lourie's disappearance and subsequent murder. But some clues really did come through. I had mentioned that Dorothy had hit on the numbers one and seven, and they later learned that Lori had been buried at Plot seventeen. At the cemetery, Dorothy had also mentioned the name Cleveland, which was one of the last streets signs noted before the crime scene where Laurie was found. Dorothy also had mentioned that there was an old church not far from the crime scene where Laurie was found, and there was indeed an old church there. Now, there is a very high probability that all of this is just a coincidence. But like I've said in the past, I am not a huge believer in coincidences. I do believe that there are some people that have the ability to be super intuitive about certain things. They might not always line up and make sense, but it doesn't really matter what I think about it. I'm not super fully convinced of Dorothy's psychic abilities, as nothing Dorothy said really led the investigation towards being solved, hence why we're talking about it now. But maybe one day, when it is solved, some of these things will make sense. We'll only going to really know if Dorothy was onto anything once this case is solved. The only thing I will say is that in nineteen eighty eight, Dorothy didn't have access to the Internet. She didn't have access to this information like we would today. And if nothing else, it's getting attention on a case that needs it, and maybe something she hits on will eventually lead to answers. I don't know. I think anyone using. These tactics should very much tread lightly, because I do feel like sometimes they can give people false hope and tell them things that aren't necessarily true. I do want to side note here for a minute. If you guys remember. The psychic Sylvia Brown. She used to be on a daytime talk show, and I remember very clearly when she had Amanda Barry's mother on Now. Amanda Barry, we would later learn, was kidnapped and held captive for a long long time, and Sylvia Brown told Amanda Berry's mom that Amanda was dead and Amanda this whole time was being held captive by her horrible kidnapper. And unfortunately, Amanda's mom passed away before she ever got resolution in her daughter's case in her daughter's story, So there is definitely a huge gray area when it comes to psychics and their abilities and. What you believe in what you don't believe. But some families are so desperate for answers that I think they're going to do anything to try to get those answers, and law enforcement too. Back in nineteen eighty eight, they were desperate, so they turned to Dorothy Allison thinking that maybe she could help. So back to Lori's story. Once they went to the crime scene, Dorothy said she had an overwhelming feeling of a name that came to her and that was said during the Unsolved Mysteries episode they bleeped out the name, and that person has not come up on any suspect lists or anything like that over the years. But she said she thinks that this is the person who is responsible and that this person brought Laurie out to the woods and Laurie became frightened and screamed, and she's getting the vibe that he hit her on the head and then went through with her rape. And murder investigators very much believe that Laurie's killer lived in the Haggerstown area and may have been somebody that was known to Laurie, whether it be personally or she was just familiar with this person from town. Police thought that Laurie's case might have been connected to the murder of another young girl named Diane Reid, who was killed in April of nineteen eighty four and was beaten and strangled in Fayetteville, Pennsylvania. They later arrested a man named Randy Carbaugh for her murder and he pled no contest, but there was never any evidence to connect Randy to Laurie's case. So from there the case goes very much dormant and they are not able to really come up with anything to definitively tie anybody to Laurie's homicide. But in nineteen ninety nine, the Maryland State Police decided that they were officially going to reopen Lourie Zimmerman's case. Detectives would go on to conduct over one hundred interviews and they started to develop some new leads, and the state Crime Lab also reviewed the different physical evidence pieces that they had, including some of the DNA to test it with the new technology that was still at the time growing, and one of the detectives stated that he thought that people in Haggerstown did have information about Laurie's case, but were not coming forward due to fear, they didn't want to get involved, or they had loyalty to the person that had committed this crime. In twenty ten, investigators looked into the possibility that a man named Jeffrey Elden Miles Senior could have been responsible for Laurie's murder. Jeffrey was a former resident of Haggerstown, Maryland, and he was convicted of killing two women in Pennsylvania, one of whom was seventeen and the other was twenty nine. Those murders occurred in nineteen ninety five and in twenty ten, but again there was not enough evidence to tie this man to Laurie's murder. Keith, thely detective in the case, has since retired, but says that he still continues to think about Laurie's case and says that he personally has his own suspicions about who was involved, but they were never able to gather enough evidence to bring charges against this person. In an article from twenty thirteen, about a link below. Laurie's mom, Sandra, speaks about her daughter's case and how she would love to see it solved. Sandra said that she feels like she has been robbed pretty badly. She feels like she. Missed out on a lot of experiences with Lourie graduation, wedding, birth of her grandchildren, and she very much wishes that she could experience these things with her daughter. Sandra also on to say she would be the happiest person in the world if this case could be closed. She then goes on to say, I wish so much that she was here today and I would just hold her on my lap like a little newborn baby, which makes me so sad. She also says, referencing going to visit her daughter at the cemetery, that sometimes I'll just walk by and I'll say, I wish you were here, baby. I know you can't be, but I just wish you were here and we could have those good times back. My heart so hurts for Sandra, who at the time of this interview was recovering from a lung cancer surgery. Now, like I said, unfortunately many of the people that were closed to this case have passed away. Laurie's father passed away. Laurie's mother passed away in May of twenty twenty at the age of seventy five, never knowing what happened to her sweet daughter. Laurie's best friend has also since passed away. The psychic that was pretty much at the head of this case, whether you agree with her or not, Dorothy Allison, passed away in nineteen ninety nine. In present day, Sergeant Chris Taylor of the Maryland State Police Homicide Unit is in charge of the investigation into Lourie Zimmerman's murder. He said, if the murder had happened today, it would be an entirely different story because a of the DNA technology and also the fact that this happened in nineteen eighty four, when there's no surveillance video, there's no cell phone data, there's none of these things that. We have today. So these are just a couple of the. Things that have led to Laurie's murder still being unsolved today. Chris Taylor ended up picking up the case in twenty twenty two, and he was quoted as saying, we're going to keep working as hard as we can to move forward. At the end of the day, it's all about closure for the family. They deserve to know what happened to their loved one. They deserve to get some sort of answers. End quote. If you do have any information in regards to what might have happened to Lourie Zimmerman in Nae teen eighty four, even if it's just a small detail, the smallest little inkling of a thing, please call the Maryland State Police Department at four one zero nine sixty six seven eight eight one. At the end of the day, we have to hope with these decades long cold case investigations, that loyalties change, and if somebody is keeping a secret for somebody else, that that person finally decides that this is the year that they're going to come forward with what they know and help propel this investigation forward. Even though a majority of Lorie's family has passed away, it still matters to get justice for her, because with each passing year, the person that took her life is getting older and older, and time is just slowly slipping away for justice. I was so glad to see when I looked up the current state of this investigation that the most recent article on the case was in twenty twenty four and that they are still actively working to try to find answers in her case. So I will continue to keep you guys updated. If anything happens in this case, I will be sure to let you know. Thank you guys so much for taking the time to listen to Laurie's case. It is so important to get these stories out there. They're all important. But I did want to give Lourie a little bit of a spotlight and put her name and face out there so hopefully we can get resolution in her case. I hope you guys have a fantastic weekend and I will see you next week for a brand new Unsolved case. Also, be on the lookout for my summer series twenty twenty five trailer that I will be dropping soon. We're going to be getting into all things regarding the Pike County massacre that occurred in twenty sixteen. It is going to be a wild ride, to say the least. I will see you guys next week. I hope you have a good one and stay safe. Bye. Dun Back