Tammy Surdam, Gina Brooks & Michele Dinwiddie

[00:00:00] Warning, this episode contains graphic crime scene detail as well as talk of sexual assault.

[00:00:05] It may be sensitive for some listeners.

[00:00:08] All witnesses, persons of interest and suspects are considered innocent until proven guilty

[00:00:14] in a court of law.

[00:00:15] Welcome to Prime Time Krime.

[00:00:17] I'm your host, Kylie.

[00:00:18] Let's talk right now on true crime.

[00:00:20] And then together we are going to work on warming up some cold cases.

[00:00:25] Let's go.

[00:00:26] Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Prime Time Krime.

[00:00:28] It's Kylie.

[00:00:31] We're going to get into the right now in true crime in the last few days.

[00:00:37] So I intentionally didn't add this to the episode that was released Thursday night,

[00:00:42] but Thursday afternoon, the state in the Chad Daybell trial rested.

[00:00:49] And right after that, John Pryor, who is Chad Daybell's attorney, brought up a motion

[00:00:57] and pointed out that in the court documents, it says that JJ Vallo was killed between

[00:01:05] September 8th and 9th of 2019 when in all actuality, it's between September 22nd and

[00:01:12] 23rd of 2019.

[00:01:15] September 8th and 9th is when they said that Tylee died.

[00:01:19] So the original court documents had the proper date and somewhere along the line, it happened

[00:01:27] where the dates got changed from the 22nd and 23rd to the 8th and the 9th.

[00:01:33] So John Pryor was arguing that the state did not prove its case because they didn't

[00:01:39] prove that JJ was killed between the 8th and the 9th.

[00:01:43] So he moved to have that count for, which is the count for of Chad Daybell murdering

[00:01:50] JJ Vallo.

[00:01:51] He asked to have that count completely dismissed, which would have been absolutely

[00:01:56] devastating for JJ's family and those that have been following along with this case

[00:02:02] for everybody.

[00:02:03] It would get no justice for JJ when it came to Chad's role in his death.

[00:02:09] So they brought this up and the prosecution wanted until Monday to try to come up with

[00:02:18] a rebuttal and a way to kind of argue their case.

[00:02:22] And the judge said, you have two hours to figure this out.

[00:02:25] So the state went and they did some research and pulled up some other examples of cases

[00:02:29] where something similar had happened and they argued their case.

[00:02:33] And they basically said that in the original paperwork it was the correct date and then

[00:02:39] somewhere along the line it got changed.

[00:02:42] They don't really understand why it happened, but it happened.

[00:02:46] So they argued that they could easily amend it and then go forward.

[00:02:51] And the judge was going to be the one who ultimately made this decision whether

[00:02:55] he was going to side with the state and let them kind of go through amending the

[00:02:59] document, realizing that it was just a clerical error and a mistake or siding with John

[00:03:04] Pryor and dismissing charge for against Chad Daybell for the murder of JJ Vallow.

[00:03:10] And thank God Judge Boyce is probably one of the most fair and impartial judges I

[00:03:18] think there is because he does consider both sides.

[00:03:21] He did. He sat there.

[00:03:23] He kind of went through everything.

[00:03:24] He talked it all through and he ultimately decided that it was just a clerical error.

[00:03:30] It never should have been changed.

[00:03:32] And the charge against Chad Daybell stands they are not going to dismiss charge for

[00:03:38] which is for the murder of JJ Vallow.

[00:03:40] So tomorrow there was no court Friday.

[00:03:43] Tomorrow court will resume with the defense up to bring their case.

[00:03:48] I think we are going to get to hear from some of Chad's kids.

[00:03:51] So I'm going to be listening for all of that.

[00:03:55] Again, listening to Gigi from Pretty Lies and Alibis for daily trial updates as well

[00:04:00] as Nate Eaton.

[00:04:01] They both do a really good job of recapping it.

[00:04:04] So if you want up to date, accurate, concise, correct information, go to them

[00:04:09] because they are the best.

[00:04:11] Next thing I want to talk about is the man that was charged with the murder of

[00:04:16] Finally, pled guilty on Wednesday.

[00:04:19] Shortly after he helped the investigators locate Dylan's remains, his name is James

[00:04:25] Brenner. We've talked about him before on this podcast.

[00:04:27] He's 61 and he pleaded guilty in Utah's first district court.

[00:04:33] There was a plea deal involved that helped resolve three separate cases.

[00:04:39] There was a charge for aggravated murder, a first degree felony that ended up

[00:04:43] being reduced to murder, which is a second degree felony.

[00:04:47] And there was a charge for desecration of human remains that ended up being

[00:04:52] dismissed with for his cooperation with helping find the remains of Dylan.

[00:04:58] And Dylan's mom has been at crime con before and they have always known

[00:05:03] that Dylan was no longer alive.

[00:05:04] They just needed to figure out what happened to Dylan and where he is.

[00:05:09] And they finally have that resolution.

[00:05:12] James Brenner had really no real reason to murder Dylan other than he said

[00:05:17] that he was mad that Dylan had put his truck in the shed that day.

[00:05:22] And that's why he ended up killing Dylan for no good reason other than that.

[00:05:27] Dylan was young, young guy trying to start fresh and move to this area of Utah

[00:05:36] and literally just came across the wrong person in James Brenner and ended

[00:05:41] up losing his life because of it.

[00:05:43] So luckily, James Brenner is not going to be able to hurt anybody else

[00:05:47] and will hopefully be in prison for a while.

[00:05:51] And that is really all I have for you guys right now.

[00:05:53] And to crime, I am trying to batch record as much as I can prior

[00:05:59] to going to crime con, because I don't want to have to take a week off

[00:06:02] because I like to stay consistent with the podcast.

[00:06:05] It's something I very much enjoy doing.

[00:06:08] And I like finding the time to put these episodes out.

[00:06:11] But it is hard because especially right now, I'm trying

[00:06:15] to record multiple episodes out.

[00:06:17] I have officially caught up on the summer series and I have that recorded

[00:06:23] through the June 7th episode, which we love to hear.

[00:06:26] I just have to catch up on my regular weekly unsolved cases.

[00:06:30] So I am going to be working on that in the next week

[00:06:33] and hopefully getting some of those episodes together so that way I can put them out.

[00:06:38] While I'm at crime con and the week after I get home from crime con.

[00:06:41] So we are going to go ahead and get started with today's episode.

[00:06:45] OK, guys, we are diving in to a new double

[00:06:49] header unsolved case today.

[00:06:51] I had originally planned on doing just one of these cases.

[00:06:55] And in my research, everything kind of intersected.

[00:06:59] And I decided that I needed to cover both of these cases.

[00:07:03] And I'm going to be bringing a third case into it as well.

[00:07:06] It is going to be a crazy time because all of these things

[00:07:10] intertwine and interconnect and they all have.

[00:07:15] A suspect in common, so that is what we're going to talk about today.

[00:07:19] So we are going to be talking about the disappearance of a

[00:07:24] 12 year old girl from St.

[00:07:25] Charles, Missouri. Her name is Tammy Rose Serdam.

[00:07:30] She was 13 years old when she disappeared in 1979.

[00:07:35] We are also going to be talking about the disappearance

[00:07:38] and presumed murder of a young girl named Gina Dawn Brooks.

[00:07:43] She was, again, 13 years old, disappeared from Fredericktown,

[00:07:47] Missouri in 1989.

[00:07:51] Now, I don't have a lot of info about Tammy's upbringing

[00:07:54] or where she was living or anything like that.

[00:07:57] Much info about her family.

[00:08:00] I do know a little bit about what was going on in her life

[00:08:04] leading up to her disappearance.

[00:08:06] So we are going to kind of start there and take it from there.

[00:08:10] Tammy Rose Serdam was born on November 8th of 1966.

[00:08:16] It seems like primarily she grew up in Missouri at the time of her disappearance.

[00:08:21] She disappeared from St.

[00:08:22] Charles, Missouri.

[00:08:23] She was 12 years old at the time of her disappearance,

[00:08:27] which happened August 1st of 1979.

[00:08:31] So two years before Tammy disappeared, she started getting into trouble.

[00:08:36] She had moved to a new area and started hanging out with not so great people.

[00:08:43] She was spending time with a lot of teenagers

[00:08:46] who were using drugs and drinking alcohol,

[00:08:49] and she began to do those things.

[00:08:51] And she started to become a chronic runaway.

[00:08:55] She was running away all of the time,

[00:08:57] and they were just having a lot of issues with her.

[00:09:01] So because of these issues that they were having with Tammy,

[00:09:05] her family turned to a center which was called Youth in Need.

[00:09:11] And this facility was located in St.

[00:09:14] Charles, Missouri.

[00:09:15] And they obviously went to them because they wanted help with Tammy.

[00:09:20] So Tammy was at this facility right before she disappeared.

[00:09:25] So Tammy had been there for about two days.

[00:09:27] And for whatever reason, I don't really understand this,

[00:09:31] but they were allowed to check out and then they were supposed

[00:09:34] to check back in before curfew.

[00:09:36] And Tammy checked herself out and never checked herself back in.

[00:09:41] And the next day, she called the facility

[00:09:44] and said that she was with friends in the Powell Terrace neighborhood

[00:09:48] and that she was fine.

[00:09:50] And then from then on out, Tammy just never came back.

[00:09:55] And it is entirely possible that Tammy left on her own volition,

[00:10:00] was hanging out with friends and something sinister and bad happened to her.

[00:10:04] Her family said that she was very trusting.

[00:10:07] She would get into a car with anybody and was not the type of person

[00:10:11] that was scared of people.

[00:10:13] So she would go along with anyone.

[00:10:15] So she easily could have been a victim of somebody

[00:10:18] wanting to do something nefarious to her.

[00:10:20] Now, I originally said she was 12 years old.

[00:10:22] I've also seen reports that she was 13.

[00:10:26] The difference between 12 and 13 is not much.

[00:10:29] Tammy was a literal child and she was out on her own.

[00:10:34] And I don't know if it was just a sign of the times or what,

[00:10:37] or if this facility, it's still in practice.

[00:10:40] If this facility still lets kids check themselves out

[00:10:43] and then check themselves back in.

[00:10:44] But I think that is crazy and insane that that transpired

[00:10:49] because her family went to this facility for help

[00:10:53] because she was a chronic runaway.

[00:10:55] So, of course, if you check her into a facility where she doesn't want to be

[00:10:59] and you give her the option to check in and check out,

[00:11:04] she's going to check out and probably not come back.

[00:11:07] So after Tammy didn't come back, she was eventually reported as missing.

[00:11:11] Her family wasn't necessarily worried, though,

[00:11:14] because she ran away a lot, but she would always resurface.

[00:11:17] So in their minds, they thought she was just going to end up coming back.

[00:11:22] And she never did.

[00:11:23] And it's been a long, long time since Tammy disappeared.

[00:11:27] And she still hasn't come back.

[00:11:29] So there really isn't a whole lot to go off of in Tammy's disappearance.

[00:11:33] This was before the age of security cameras.

[00:11:36] So there's nothing of those sorts.

[00:11:38] And again, she went off and was hanging out with friends.

[00:11:41] We don't really know exactly when she disappeared.

[00:11:45] The last time she was at the center was that day in August of 1979.

[00:11:52] Tammy was really close to her father.

[00:11:54] So her family was hopeful that after he passed away in 1988,

[00:12:00] that if she was still alive, that she would reach out and reconnect with the family.

[00:12:06] But nothing ever came of that.

[00:12:07] And she never ended up reaching out.

[00:12:11] So her family would kind of try to come to terms with the fact

[00:12:16] that Tammy might have been abducted, she might have been murdered.

[00:12:20] And investigators kind of went along with this as well and thought the same

[00:12:24] because they didn't have any new leads or any information leading them

[00:12:30] to where Tammy potentially could have been.

[00:12:33] There was actually a guy that was connected to another alleged murder

[00:12:37] and abduction of a girl that they thought law enforcement thought was

[00:12:41] a potential suspect in Tammy's disappearance.

[00:12:44] And his name was Nathan Danny Williams.

[00:12:47] He went by Danny and he was a suspect

[00:12:51] in the 1989 abduction and murder of a 13 year old girl named Gina Brooks.

[00:12:58] Her body has never been found, so it is a presumed murder.

[00:13:02] And it was him and another man who is called Timothy Blue.

[00:13:07] They were charged with Gina's murder in 1999.

[00:13:10] They ended up dropping the murder charge against Blue

[00:13:14] because there was not enough evidence to charge him.

[00:13:17] And then in 2003, they also ended up dropping the murder charge against Danny.

[00:13:23] But he ended up staying in prison because he had a different rape conviction

[00:13:28] because he is a horrible, horrible human.

[00:13:31] And he remains the prime suspect in Gina's case.

[00:13:34] So I want to talk a little bit about Gina and her case,

[00:13:37] and then we're going to kind of tie it back to the.

[00:13:43] Possible abduction and murder of Tammy.

[00:13:47] So Gina Brooks was 13 years old at the time of her disappearance,

[00:13:51] and she disappeared from Fredericktown, Missouri, August 5th of 1989.

[00:13:57] She had come home after watching her brother's baseball game,

[00:14:02] and then she was going to go out and ride her bicycle

[00:14:06] and ended up never returning.

[00:14:08] And she ended up being reported missing at two o'clock in the morning.

[00:14:13] So witnesses say that Gina was seen standing by a church

[00:14:18] and they saw a battered light gray, green

[00:14:22] or blue station wagon with Missouri plates pull up.

[00:14:26] And whoever was driving it spoke to Gina.

[00:14:28] And she ended up getting back on her bike.

[00:14:32] And then there are some witnesses saying later on

[00:14:35] that they heard someone screaming for help.

[00:14:37] And this vehicle is seen turning left on Franklin

[00:14:41] and driving towards Highway 67.

[00:14:44] Her bike later was found abandoned on a lawn on High Street,

[00:14:49] which is five blocks from where her home was.

[00:14:52] And there was no sign that she was around that area at all.

[00:14:58] Her bike was just there and she has not been seen since.

[00:15:02] The other two guys ended up being implicated in her abduction and murder.

[00:15:07] And there was also another guy named Brian Squires

[00:15:10] who was identified as the driver of the station wagon.

[00:15:14] He passed away from cancer and some AIDS complications.

[00:15:20] And he said in a deathbed confession to nurses

[00:15:25] that it was Williams and himself that abducted

[00:15:30] Gina and also killed her.

[00:15:33] And he also talked about other crimes that they committed.

[00:15:37] So this guy that made the deathbed confession

[00:15:39] basically threw his two friends under the bus, which I think is

[00:15:44] pretty interesting and probably accurate, if I'm being honest.

[00:15:49] Timothy Ballou also said that

[00:15:53] he had lied to the FBI agents about the location of Gina's remains

[00:15:57] because he had claimed that Gina was buried in a abandoned meat freezer

[00:16:02] on his father's 96 acre property.

[00:16:05] They searched through this area in 2001 and they have come up with no evidence.

[00:16:10] So this was obviously not true.

[00:16:12] So there was a lot of cooks in the kitchen on this one.

[00:16:14] There was three guys.

[00:16:16] They were all pretty much like telling on each other.

[00:16:18] However, Williams decided to plead not guilty.

[00:16:21] This is Danny, who pled not guilty to first degree murder,

[00:16:24] which was brought against him in 1999.

[00:16:27] And they thought that he was the one that was responsible for killing Gina

[00:16:30] and that the other two were just kind of like helping him cover it up.

[00:16:35] And they both Danny and Ballou had

[00:16:41] sex offenses against them and they had other crimes against them.

[00:16:44] Never murder. But they did have other crimes against them.

[00:16:47] And they ended up charging, like I said, Ballou

[00:16:50] with second degree murder in Gina's case.

[00:16:53] The charges were dismissed on all fronts because they had no

[00:16:57] major evidence to tie them to these crimes,

[00:17:00] although they do believe that these are the people responsible,

[00:17:03] which I think is so, so crazy.

[00:17:06] And to this day, Gina's body has never been found,

[00:17:09] but it is suspected that she was murdered, abducted and murdered

[00:17:14] by these three horrific humans.

[00:17:17] And it's horrible that

[00:17:21] no one has had to pay for what they did to Gina.

[00:17:24] And now I'm going to tie it back to Tammy because they do believe

[00:17:28] that Danny was also responsible for

[00:17:34] her murder as well, her abduction and murder.

[00:17:36] And I am going to now go back to Tammy and tell you why.

[00:17:40] Oddly enough, these two cases are intertwining.

[00:17:42] So I'm going to include both of them in the show description

[00:17:46] because I do feel like these two cases are related.

[00:17:49] So Danny Williams allegedly told two witnesses,

[00:17:53] which I don't really know who these two witnesses are.

[00:17:55] I don't know what context this was in, but he told these two people

[00:18:00] that he had allegedly abducted a 12 year old girl

[00:18:05] off of the street near a college in St.

[00:18:07] Charles, Missouri, in the late 1970s, which tracks with Tammy's

[00:18:12] disappearance and that he raped her, stabbed her to death

[00:18:16] and then buried her body.

[00:18:18] And this, of course, would match the circumstances

[00:18:21] surrounding Tammy's disappearance.

[00:18:23] She was the only child around that age who had disappeared

[00:18:27] from St.

[00:18:27] Charles around that time period.

[00:18:30] And the fact that she was never found.

[00:18:33] And the place that she was staying was only four blocks away

[00:18:38] from Linwood College, which absolutely a hundred percent tracks.

[00:18:42] And I know that there's not enough evidence to bring against Danny

[00:18:48] in Gina or Tammy's abduction and murder.

[00:18:52] But if I'm a betting woman and I am, I'm betting that Danny Williams is our guy.

[00:18:57] So this one took me for quite the loop because as soon as I researched one,

[00:19:02] I found another that was potentially tied to Danny Williams.

[00:19:05] And then I found another.

[00:19:07] So the other crime that Danny Williams was tied to,

[00:19:13] her name was Laura Dinwiddie, and she went by the name Michelle.

[00:19:19] So we are now going to talk a little bit about her case.

[00:19:22] This is turning into a triple header.

[00:19:24] She was brutally murdered in 1975.

[00:19:28] She ended up volunteering with an agency that was called Volunteer

[00:19:33] in Service for America.

[00:19:34] It's also called Vista.

[00:19:36] And at the time, it was a newly launched organization.

[00:19:40] It was a version of the Peace Corps, and she was really intrigued by it.

[00:19:44] She ended up being assigned to St.

[00:19:47] Louis. Her parents very much did not want her to go, tried to talk her out of it.

[00:19:52] But she was all for it and was really intrigued by the experience.

[00:19:57] So she was there for about a year.

[00:20:00] She had a fantastic time, really loved it and of course, wanted to head back

[00:20:05] after Christmas break and get back to it.

[00:20:08] She ended up going back, but she ended up going to an area called Hyde Park,

[00:20:14] which is on the north side of the city.

[00:20:18] And in this setting, she was assigned to help children

[00:20:21] at a psychiatric child guidance center.

[00:20:25] And she really enjoyed interacting and working with kids.

[00:20:28] So this was right up her alley.

[00:20:30] And her plan was to do this for a few more months until they found

[00:20:34] a replacement for her.

[00:20:35] And then when summer came, she would return home with her family.

[00:20:39] But unfortunately, she never got that opportunity because

[00:20:43] in March of 1975, her friend went to her apartment

[00:20:50] and found Michelle's body.

[00:20:53] She was dressed only with socks on.

[00:20:55] Her throat had been slashed.

[00:20:57] She had been stabbed twice in the chest and once in the abdomen.

[00:21:02] There had been no forced entry into her apartment

[00:21:05] and there was nothing missing.

[00:21:06] So robbery obviously wasn't a motive.

[00:21:09] And everyone in the area was so shocked that this poor girl

[00:21:12] who had traveled from her home to help underprivileged children

[00:21:17] ended up being stalked and murdered in her own home.

[00:21:21] And the case went unsolved for a long, long time.

[00:21:26] Her mother very much tried to keep it in the spotlight

[00:21:29] because she didn't want her daughter's death to be forgotten.

[00:21:33] She didn't want whoever did this to get away with it.

[00:21:36] And it ended up eventually getting into the hands

[00:21:42] of a homicide detective who kind of took it from the very beginning

[00:21:47] and started kind of looking back at everything.

[00:21:49] So he started kind of circling back and going through all of the different

[00:21:53] evidence in the case and the different people they had talked to.

[00:21:56] And one of the first people was a young teenager who was named,

[00:22:00] you guessed it, Nathan Danny Williams.

[00:22:03] He had told police in 1978 that he knew who had killed Michelle.

[00:22:09] And this investigator went looking for Danny,

[00:22:12] and he had realized that he had served a seven year

[00:22:16] sentence for the rape and sodomy of a 10 year old girl in St.

[00:22:22] Louis in 1979.

[00:22:24] And then he ended up back in prison in 1985 for robbery.

[00:22:29] And then he was arrested again in 1989 for, again,

[00:22:33] raping a 10 year old girl.

[00:22:35] And this guy is our horrific, horrific human.

[00:22:38] He ended up being sentenced to 30 years and he was sent

[00:22:41] to the Farmington Correctional Center.

[00:22:44] Now, we've already talked about the disappearance of Tammy

[00:22:49] and her possible murder linked to Danny.

[00:22:53] We have talked about the disappearance and murder of Gina,

[00:22:56] again, linked to Danny.

[00:22:58] And now we have another one linked to Danny.

[00:23:02] So this detective didn't stop.

[00:23:03] He just kind of kept pursuing and kept pushing.

[00:23:06] And eventually Danny admitted that he was there that the night

[00:23:10] that Michelle was killed, but he was not the one who actually

[00:23:13] did it. And Danny was only 14 at the time that Michelle

[00:23:18] was murdered. So could a 14 year old have committed such

[00:23:21] a heinous crime and could they have also gotten away

[00:23:26] with it? Like 14 year olds are dumb.

[00:23:28] Could they have potentially not left anything behind to

[00:23:31] tie them back to the case?

[00:23:33] There was a lot to consider here.

[00:23:35] So they knew that they didn't have enough evidence to

[00:23:40] charge him with anything.

[00:23:41] Again, he is getting by by the skin of his teeth,

[00:23:44] not being able to have any evidence to tie him to these

[00:23:48] cases, except for him saying, yes, I was there,

[00:23:50] but it wasn't me that did it.

[00:23:52] So they did not pursue charges against Danny

[00:23:57] in this case either.

[00:23:58] But the family was at least a little relieved

[00:24:02] that they at least had somebody that said that they were

[00:24:06] involved, but they weren't the one that actually did it.

[00:24:08] But it left them with more questions.

[00:24:10] How could someone so young have brutally murdered Michelle?

[00:24:14] Was Danny somebody that Michelle was trying to help in her

[00:24:18] work with Vista? So many unanswered questions.

[00:24:22] And Michelle's family very much said that they would love

[00:24:26] to be face to face with Danny Williams just to kind of get

[00:24:29] his side of the story and hear what he has to say.

[00:24:32] But he denied any requests for any interviews or anything

[00:24:36] with multiple different media outlets.

[00:24:38] And I did see something that said that he was eligible

[00:24:42] for parole in 2019.

[00:24:45] I haven't seen anything about him being granted parole.

[00:24:47] And this monster should never be out on the streets.

[00:24:50] I couldn't find anything about him being out.

[00:24:52] And then I saw something else about him not being eligible

[00:24:55] for parole until 2039.

[00:24:58] And in 2039, he will be turning 78 years old.

[00:25:03] So as of what I can tell, I don't think he's out.

[00:25:07] But if he is Lord, help us all, because he is obviously

[00:25:11] a dangerous, dangerous human.

[00:25:13] And these are three stories that have a lot of similar parallels.

[00:25:17] They all happen in the same area.

[00:25:19] They are all young girls and they are all

[00:25:24] allegedly murdered in a heinous, heinous way.

[00:25:27] Gina and Tammy, their bodies have never been found.

[00:25:31] Unfortunately, Michelle's body was found in her apartment

[00:25:34] and she was attacked in a brutal, brutal way.

[00:25:38] This never should have happened to any of them.

[00:25:40] I think in Tammy's case that she was probably

[00:25:44] a very trusting girl and probably trusted the wrong person.

[00:25:48] And that person very likely is Danny Williams.

[00:25:53] Investigators have released age progress photos of Tammy and Gina.

[00:25:57] So I will be posting those on my Instagram and Facebook pages.

[00:26:01] And there isn't a whole lot of people left in Tammy's family.

[00:26:06] They have all pretty much passed away,

[00:26:09] but she does have a sister who is named April Flower,

[00:26:13] and she is still very desperate for information

[00:26:16] on what happened to her sister.

[00:26:19] And she is quoted as to saying to the Riverfront Times,

[00:26:24] I just want to know where she is or what happened to her.

[00:26:27] I love her and want to find her, end quote.

[00:26:30] So I will be sure to post both Tammy and

[00:26:34] Gina's age progress photos so you guys can see them.

[00:26:38] When Tammy disappeared, she was 12 years old.

[00:26:43] She was five ten, eight hundred and thirty pounds.

[00:26:45] She is a Caucasian female with blonde hair and blue eyes.

[00:26:49] I will post pictures of her then and the age

[00:26:51] progressed photo of her, which is age progress to age 58,

[00:26:57] which is the age she would be this year.

[00:27:00] Gina Dawn Brooks was 13 years old when she disappeared.

[00:27:05] She was five foot, 108 pounds.

[00:27:07] She was wearing a blue striped top, white shorts and sneakers.

[00:27:11] The vehicle that she was seen chatting with the driver

[00:27:14] was a battered light gray, green or blue station wagon

[00:27:18] that had Missouri license plates.

[00:27:20] She is a Caucasian female with blonde hair, green eyes,

[00:27:24] and she has several white fleck type scars on the shin of her left leg.

[00:27:30] And I will also be posting an age progressed photo of her as well.

[00:27:34] It is age progress to 45 circa 2020.

[00:27:38] And oddly enough, I originally was going to do this case

[00:27:43] just about Tammy.

[00:27:44] And then it kind of brought these other two cases into the mix

[00:27:48] and they all kind of intersected.

[00:27:50] And I think that's the really interesting thing about true crime

[00:27:53] is that there are so many parallels between a lot of different cases.

[00:27:58] And it's just amazing to me that if Danny Williams

[00:28:02] is the person responsible for Tammy, Gina and Michelle's deaths,

[00:28:09] that he was able to evade law enforcement

[00:28:13] and not leave behind any tactile proof and evidence

[00:28:17] that he is the one that is responsible.

[00:28:20] It is just wild.

[00:28:22] Of course, now with DNA technology being so advancing like it is,

[00:28:26] I don't think you could ever get away with something like that

[00:28:28] in present day 2024.

[00:28:31] But back in the 70s and 80s, you sure as heck could.

[00:28:34] And this is the perfect example of that.

[00:28:37] But regardless, you never know if somebody out there

[00:28:41] has the missing puzzle piece, the smoking gun to help

[00:28:45] bring these families closure after all of this time.

[00:28:49] Never say never.

[00:28:51] And that is exactly why I do these episodes.

[00:28:53] So if you have any information on the disappearance of Tammy

[00:28:57] Sir Dam, Gina Brooks or the murder of Laura Michelle Denwitty,

[00:29:03] it is never too late to come forward and say what you know

[00:29:06] and help get these family the peace and closure that they so desperately need.

[00:29:10] So I thank you guys for listening to this crazy triple header episode.

[00:29:15] I appreciate each and every one of you.

[00:29:17] And I will see you on Friday for a brand new summer series,

[00:29:20] Dan Markel episode.

[00:29:22] And I hope you guys have a great week ahead. Bye.