Unsolved Mashup: Tristan Smart, Erica Fraysure, Stacie Madison/Susan Smalley, Deborah Poe

Welcome to Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie. Let's talk right now in true crime, and then together we are going to work on warming up some cold cases. Let's go. Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie. Okay. So last week for Friday's episode, I had already recorded right now in True crime, and the world literally just decided boom, We're gonna throw a lot more right now in true crime at you. But I didn't want to rerecord it or add to it because it was already so long. So we are going to talk about some right now in true crime happening some like trickle over from the end of last week till now. So Chad day Bell, his attorney, John Pryor, had initially filed to be removed as his attorney, and Chad was allegedly in agreeance with this, and then there was another like petition file to not have him removed. Is removed as attorney, and then before we know it, John Pryor is not removed and is saying that he doesn't care if he gets paid, he is going to remain. Chad Dabel's attorney, Chad is broke. Chad cannot afford to continue paying for this council. But John Pryor is going to out of the goodness of his heart, I guess represent Chad still in trial going forward. I don't really know what that means as far as the trial, because the trial was set to start April one, but then this petition came out and we were under the assumption that it was going to be halted because you can't get a new attorney in there to learn all of the facets of this case that are literally so complex and convoluted by April one. So now that John's staying on, I don't know if we're still on for trial or not, but I will definitely keep you guys updated on that. But I swear this is the story that never ends. It's very much murder ask It's just going to keep going. Also, I want to talk about a Houston situation that is going on. There was a woman who was named Shirley Houston, and she was seventy three years old and suffering from dementia. She had a caregiver that was with her. And for people that suffer with dementia, they very much can become aggressive and combative, and that's what happened in Shirley's case. She became aggressive with her caregiver. The caregiver called the cops. They filed charges against her, and they took seventy three year old Shirley to prison, and somewhere along the line they let her out of prison. Now she's seventy three, she has dementia. She has just been placed in prison, and they decided to let her out at four o'clock in the morning. She had nowhere to go. She was probably so confused. They did not call her family. It was freezing cold in Houston when they let her out, and they didn't go about it the proper way in contact family or even realize. I guess that this woman was suffering from dementia, which is a big, big problem. They let her out and she was At that point, her family reported her as missing because they did not know where she was, and of course this was worrisome because she does have dementia. So late last week there was reports that they had found a body in Duson Park, which is in northeast Harris County, and they did identify the body that was found as Shirley Houston. And this is not going to be good. For anyone Harris County, especially because this looks really really bad that she was released from prison, she had a diagnosis of dementia, they arrested her instead of taking her to a proper facility to have a medical evaluation. That is a big, big problem, and shame on that caregiver for calling the cops, because as a caregiver, especially if you're caring for patients with dementia, you need to realize that that does happen quite frequently with patients with dementia. They will have violent outbursts and they will be combative, they can get agitated. That kind of comes with the territory of dealing with people with dementia, and if you're going to be a caregiver, you need to be aware of that. This woman never should have been taken to jail. She never should have been let out without somebody with her, and it's really sad and tragic. I do not know if they are suspecting any foul play. I would doubt that, but the fact that she was let out and later was found deceased is a tragedy and it is not okay. In Richard Allen News, the alleged suspect in the Delphi case. They had a while ago wanted to take away his lawyers. It is like a convoluted story. It's just been like back and forth, back and forth. But recently, as of a few days ago, the Supreme Court has decided to reinstate his lawyers, so all of that stuff is just back on track. It is a lot. I'm hoping twenty twenty four is the year that Richard Allen goes to trial because I think they have a plethora of evidence against this man and I cannot wait to hear it all come out. I think it's going to be really, really interesting. Also, have you guys been following I've talked about it on here before the murder for higher plot of Dan Markel. Have you guys been following, because I'm thinking of about doing that as my summer series for those that really don't know much about it. I have been super enthralled in the case. So long story short, Dan was married to a gal named Wendy. They had two boys, and there was a lot of issues in their marriage. Basically, Dan lived in one part of Florida and Wendy and her family were from another part, and Wendy was just miserable living this life that she was living with Dan, and very much wanted to live back where her parents lived, and her brother and her family was in support of this, and they hated Dan for whatever reason because they separated the family. I guess like they looked at him as like, you took our daughter away from us. Whatever. So Dan ends up essentially being shot in his driveway. He does not die immediately, but passes away right after, and they come up with these two suspects that they believe were involved because they have video and all of the things, and it ends up tying back to one of the hitmen shares kids with this woman, and this woman also is tied to Charlie Adelson, who is Wendy's brother, and it just turns into this giant murder for higher plot. And most recently they arrested Donna Adelson, who is Wendy's mom, in conjunction with this conspiracy to commit murder. Charlie has already been tried and convicted and sentenced to prison for his role in the murder. And there's a lot of moving parts to this case. A lot I feel like still going to be coming down the pipeline. So I think I am going to do this as my summer series. We're going to talk all about Dan and honor him and talk about him, what led him and Wendy to get together, and what led to this giant rift in the family and all of the different aspects and components of this case. Because the one thing about this case that is so interesting is Charlie Adelson, who is the brother of Wendy, does not stop talking. There are phone calls on phone calls on phone calls of him speaking to his mom in prison when Charlie's been arrested. Donna is still out at this point, and there are dozens and dozens and dozens, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of prison phone calls between the two of them, which I think eventually led to Donna being arrested in conjunction with this conspiracy to commit murder murder for higher plot. It is so convoluted and so interesting, and it really does in some way, shape or form. Once I get into it, you'll see the Adelson family gives me Lori Valo, Alex Cox vibes. So what better series to do for a summer series than this one? So this is going to be the official summer series I will probably start in May, and by May, god knows, we're probably gonna have a lot more information. So just wanted to give you guys a heads up on that. It's going to be really, really interesting. So I feel like that's all I want to talk about for right now. In Your Crime, I will touch on Scott Peterson's case. Scott picked up by the Innocence Project of California, which we're really not shocked by, at least I'm not shocked by. The Innocence Project is a whole like it's a whole thing. And then there's a lot of like other innocence projects that are kind of independent of the main Innocence Project, and I think that part gets a little convoluted for some people. But the Innocence Project has put out a statement that the Innocence Project of California is separate from them because they're getting a lot of backlash because people do not like Scott Peterson, myself included. But it's going to be interesting to kind of see it unfold and see everything. Apparently they have a vehicle where they have like blood evidence, and they want to test that blood evidence to see if it matches Lacy's I am not going to speak much on it. I am very much a proponent for Scott's guilt, but I know there are people out there who think that there might be a chance that he's innocent. There's been times that I've kind of looked at the evidence and I've tried to resign myself with, well, maybe there is a chance that he's innocent, but I really just can't get myself there, and I think that's okay. Like, the one thing I do struggle with in the case is that I don't think Scott is very smart, and he literally left behind no physical evidence, So that part is the only part that really truly bothers me about it. But at the end of the day, I am a proponent of Scott being guilty, but I can't preach what I do about their being people that are innocent who are in prison without giving that chance to everybody. So although I'm not in support of Scott's innocence, i am in support of the Innocence Project and what they do as a whole. So we're just going to watch this unfold and know that at the end of the day, just because a case is picked up by the Innocence Project doesn't necessarily mean that the person is innocent. It just means that they're willing to explore it more. And we need that for all of these cases. There's a lot of cases that I have followed that I feel like need to be picked up by the Innocence Project and they're not. And I feel like Scott's case is being picked up because it is so in the media and it's very notorious. But I'll keep you guys updated on that. And with all of that, we're going to go ahead and get started with today's episode. I did something a little bit different today and I hope you guys enjoy it all Right, guys, we are going to be doing something a little bit different with today's episode. I really want to start doing more of these. There are a lot of cases out there that really don't have a lot of information behind them, not enough to fill up a whole episode, but they still deserve attention and deserve to be heard. So I'm going to be doing that with today's episode, kind of taking a few different cases that really don't have a lot of background information and just sharing them, sharing about the person who is either missing or was killed, and it is unsolved, so that is what we're going to do today. So I want to start off with a story about a guy named Tristan Scott Smart. He was twenty years old when he was killed in January of twenty twenty. So. He was born in Houston, Texas, January fourth of nineteen ninety nine. He was the son of Bethany and Brian Smart. He graduated from Cypress Ridge High School in twenty eighteen. He was very much involved in Eagle Scouts and he had one brother, Samuel, who he had a great relationship with, along with a multitude of other friends and cousins and grandparents and aunts and uncles. He had a lot of people in his life that really really loved him. So Tristan was killed fatally shot in his car near Jersey Village and his family believes that it might have been a drug related transaction. He was on his way to a birthday party and potentially could have stopped for some drugs and ended up being shot and killed. There is a crime Stoppers reward that is at ten thousand dollars leading for information leading to an arrest to figure out what happened to Tristan that day and Unfortunately, there's a lot of these kind of cases where it is random or it is drug related, and they really don't have much to go off of as far as investigation and trying to figure out who potentially could have done it, persons of interest suspects, they have none of that interest in's case. Tristan's family is desperate to figure out what happened to Tristan. They did hire their own private investigator, and Samuel, who is Tristan's brother, has given interviews to different news outlets and he has said a message for the shooter or shooters, I don't know how you can live with that. I'm sure you have a family too. And his family does believe that it happened quick enough that he doesn't really even know what happened. He doesn't even know what hit him. He did not see it coming. But they do think that it was a setup and somebody knew that he was there for whatever reasons, and they were trying to send a message to somebody. You see it so often in these kind of drug deal gone bad cases where the person shows up to complete the drug deal and it just goes really bad, really fast. So this crime happened January fourteenth, of twenty twenty. Tristan was in his pickup truck when he was shot and killed, and it happened outside of a West Road apartment complex near Jersey Village in Texas, which is outside of Houston. So I will post a picture of Tristan along with the crime stoppers information and hopefully something can lead to Tristan's killer and this person doesn't do this again, because if you do it once, you're more prone to do it again, especially when you get away with it. So we really need to share Tristan's story and realize that there are so so so many others just like Tristan out there. So with that, we're going to go ahead and lead into our next case, which is the disappear apearance of a girl from Brooksville, Kentucky, on October twenty first of nineteen ninety seven. Her name is Erica Frasier, so authorities still don't know what happened to Erica all those years ago. She was seventeen years old, was at a video rental store between nine pm and ten pm on a Tuesday night. She ended up not coming home, so her family went ahead and reported her missing. The next day, her black nineteen eighty eight Pontiac Bonneville car was found park between two haybales, about a mile away from the video store. There weren't really any signs of a struggle in or around her vehicle, and her wallet, purse, and checkbook were all in the car. The police did dust for fingerprints, but they were unable to identify any. They later found her missing car keys across the road from her vehicle, underneath some leaves, like somebody had intentionally hid them and tried to put them there to disguise them. So authorities really didn't have a ton to go off of in regards to what happened to Erica. There was a twenty year old guy named Shane Simcox who was allegedly the last person to see Erica, and when authorities interviewed him, he said that Erica had dropped him off around nine pm the night that she disappeared, and then he never saw her again. So Shane sim Cox did have some priors and he had previously been charged with burglary, and when they said that they wanted to give him a polygraph test, he refused to try to help aid in Erica's case, and there hasn't really ever been any definitive, concrete evidence linking him to Erica's disappearance, but he was considered a person of interest, but they have never been able to come up with enough to charge him or arrest him in a connection with Erica's disappearance. So, unfortunately, Erica's case still is unsolved to this day. There's not a whole lot that they have to go off of. There was a tip that came in in twenty twenty, and this tip led authorities to search a school stairwell with cadaver dogs, but that search didn't lead to any new information in regards to what happened to Erica. So they have never found her body. They have never found any remains. Nothing has really ever come up in regards to what happened. So at the time of her disappearance, she was five six and weighed one hundred and fifteen pounds. She was wearing a purple sweater with two white stripes on the chest, Levi jeans and ked sneakers, a Winnie the Pooh watch, and four gold rings on her right hand. If she was still alive, she would be forty three years old. Now. Her birthday is May sixth, so she would be getting ready to turn forty four years old this year. And it's really just crazy that there's no new information out there in regards to what happened to Stacy. She still could be out there and have a completely new identity and have no idea who she is, or somebody could have done something really horrible to her, but there was really no evidence left behind that would suggest that. So it's just really odd. It's really bizarre. But it's a story that I felt like deserved attention, and hopefully we can get some traction on this case because I'm sure, especially after all this time, Stacy's family just wants closure, all right. Moving in Toto, the next case, we are going to talk about the disappearance of two girls, Stacy Madison and Susan Smalley, in nineteen eighty eight. They were from Carlton, Texas. Stacey was seventeen and her best friend was eighteen year old Susan Smallly. They were seniors at Newman Smith High School in Carlton, Texas. They were in the of their spring break. It was almost over and they had a plan to have a girl sleepover at Susan's house. Stacy had a nineteen sixty seven Mustang that was painted the colors of their high school, and that evening she had picked Susan up and they also were going to stop in and pick Susan's mother up from her job at a local department store. The girls eventually went to see an apartment full of friends, which was an Arlington, which is outside of Dallas. It's about twenty five miles from Carlton, where the girls were from, and they also stopped in at a restaurant where Susan worked as a waitress, so Stacey allegedly stayed in the vehicle while Susan went inside around eleven thirty pm. Some people that were in the area that night said that the girls attempted to purchase alcohol at a seven to eleven store before they arrived at the restaurant. I don't know if they were successful in that or not because they were underage, but they did try to purchase alcohol allegedly. So the girls had a midnight curfew, so they were supposed to be at Susan's house for the sleepover by midnight, and the girls did make their midnight curfew, and they called Stacy's mom to check in from Susan's house and this was the last time that anybody heard from the girls. And they're not sure when they left the house again. But on March twenty first, everyone that knew them began to worry because they didn't have any contact from Susan or Stacy, so they went ahead and reported them missing. The next day, which was March twenty second, Stacy's Mustang was found in the parking lot of web Chapel Village on Forest Lane in Dallas, Texas. And Forest Lane was a cruising strip that was a popular hangout for teens in the area, and the girl's personal belongings were found inside of the car, and they also had a portable stereo that was found inside of the car. So literally, these two girls just simply vanished into thin air. Over the years, they've been treated very much as runaways because they were old enough to kind of make their own decisions. They just kind of walked off and decided that they were going to extend their spring break. Well, guess what, it's twenty twenty four and these girls still have never been found. Their car was found and they were not so In twenty twenty, family members told NBC that police very much initially treated this disappearance as they were runaways, and they didn't really give a lot of attention to this case, and that really caused catastrophic consequences on their ability to investigate the case because they did not initially give it the attention that it needed. And the first forty eight hours twenty four hours of a missing person's case are the most important, and if you're treating the person as a runaway, then you're not giving it that up attention, which happened all the time, and it drives me insane. I don't know why we don't take things a little more seriously, especially if it's out of character for somebody to not check in with their family or to just not show up. Like you can be an eighteen year old girl wanting to have fun and go on spring break and not have real life responsibilities, but you don't go missing for you know, thirty something years. That's not how it works. That's obvious that they were not runaways and something nefarious happened to them. It might have started off like that, that they were just traveling and going somewhere and something happened. Because they still have not turned up to this day, So this one is weird. If the girls are still out there, they would be fifty two and fifty three years old. Stacy at the time that she went missing was five to six and we had one hundred and sixty pounds, and Susan was five eight and weigh one hundred and forty pounds. So this one is interesting. I feel like there is way more to it, and I would really like to know what happened because they have never again, their bodies have never been found. Nobody has ever come forward with any more information to help the authorities try to figure out exactly what happened, and their families still don't know where their girls are and that is really really tragic. This happened in nineteen eighty eight. I was two, Like, it's crazy that these cases can span decades, in decades and decades and nobody comes forward with any new information. It is just so wild to me. And that is the whole purpose of this podcast is to bring attention to some of these lesser known cases that we don't really ever hear about, because they are really important in the grand scheme of things. The last case we're going to talk about in today's episode is regarding a woman named Deborah Diann Poe. She was twenty five years old and she was a hard worker. She had two full time jobs that she was working at the time of her disappearance because she had major plans on setting herself up in the future to be successful and be able to travel and just live a very comfortable life, so she was hustling at the age of twenty five to provide for herself. She had a full time retail sales job at The Orlando Sentinel. She also worked overnight at a Circle K convenience store in Orlando, and she wanted to save enough money to buy herself a house, and she also wanted to open a catering business. She was a transplant from Virginia to Orlando and was just very much looking for a fresh start. She did have a boyfriend named Scott Laggie. He, according to reports, drove by the store around one am on February fourth of nineteen ninety and saw her at work, and then two hours later a friend saw her inside behind the counter at work. This was the overnight shift that she did at Circle K, and these two instances are the last time that anyone saw her alive. Her boyfriend would often go by and check on her at night, just do like a drive by to make sure she was okay, because she did work the overnight shift and there was some people who had been harassing her, like drunk customers late at night in the weeks leading up to her disappearance, so Scott would go by just check on her, make sure she was okay. There was a witness that would later tell police that a long haired man wearing a Megadeth rock shirt was behind the counter at three point fifteen in the morning and he was cashing people out. Appeared to be a employee of the Circle k, but the one witness that was there and he waited on her, she said that she had to tell him where the cigarettes were that she wanted to purchase. So although they thought he was an employee, after the fact they thought, well, maybe he wasn't. So police were summoned to the scene just after four a m. After a regular customer call to report that they found that the store was abandoned. There was no one there working, and of course Deborah at that point was missing. So investigators get to the scene and they find a cup of coffee and a container of chocolate milk sitting on a stack of house plans behind the counter, which we know Deborah wanted to find a house for herself. There was a circle case smock that was folded nearby, and in the parking lot they did find Deborah's brand new red Toyota Celica and it was undisturbed. Her purse and her latest paycheck were inside, so very interesting circumstances. There wasn't anything missing from the cash register. There were zero signs of a struggle there did. They did bring in a dog to track Deborah's scent, and they did track it and catch it inside of the store, and the dog let its handler across the parking lot before it lost the trail of the smell. So authorities do believe that she potentially could have gotten into someone else's vehicle, which is why the scent ended. So the man in the Megadeth shirt never has been identified. They have not been able to figure out who he is, locate him, question him. He was never named a suspect, even though I think he probably is allegedly in my opinion, they did question Scott and asked him to take a polygraph. He passed and obviously was not involved and he later on moved to Kentucky. So they've never officially named any suspects in Debor's case, and the case to this day remains unsolved. Again, Deborah has never been found, her body was never found, no information in regarding her has ever been found. If she is still alive, she would be sixty as of August third of twenty twenty three, and she's potentially still out there. It is so crazy how people all of these stories that I just covered, except for the first one, all of these people literally just vanished into thin air, and they are all out there somewhere, and they need all the attention that they can get so that way we can bring these people home for their families, or at least get some closure for their families. That is the most important. So that case happened out of Orlando, and there really isn't much more information other than that. But these four stories are so so important to talk about. To cover, I'm going to post pictures of all of the victim in all of these cases. Any other pertinent pictures and information I will also post. But let me know if you guys like this kind of episode. I come across so many stories so often that really don't have a lot of information to them, but you still want to tell them because every missing person, every unsolved homicide is important, regardless of if there's a lot of information surrounding it or not. So let me know if you guys like this, and I'm going to continue to sprinkle some of these episodes in here and there because it's important. It's a good way to get these cases kind of reinvigorated and get more eyes and ears on them. So I hope you guys enjoyed this little four part episode and I will see you guys next time for a new episode. Bye.